***CNN Poll: Trump bears most blame for shutdown, job approval 37%, disapproval shoots up to 57%***

[DemocratSinceBirth]

WASHINGTON (CNN)Amid the longest government shutdown in US history, a majority say Donald Trump bears more responsibility for it than the Democrats in Congress, and the President's disapproval rating has climbed five points since last month, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS.

Negotiations between the President and congressional leaders have stalled as neither side seems willing to budge on funding for a wall along the border with Mexico. That proposal remains deeply unpopular with the public, according to the poll. Overall, 56% oppose a wall, 39% favor it. That's almost exactly the same as in December. And less than half view the situation at the border as a crisis (45% say it's a crisis, 52% that it is not).


https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-trump/index.html

[mucifer]

1. So people know he might be a spy and the job approval is 37% holy f !

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Polling indicates...

Polling indicates 30% of American have authoritarian tendencies so the results should be unsurprising

[mucifer]

3. Just googled that President Obama's highest disapproval was 57% 10/10/14

these numbers are absolutely mind blowing:

Historical comparison
Order President Highest disapproval

45 Trump 62 (10/29/17, 10/30/17, 12/01/17)

44 Obama 57 (10/10/14)

43 G. W. Bush 71 (10/10/08)

42 Clinton 54 (09/07/94)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

[LongtimeAZDem]

51. On the other hand, his highest approval was 69%, where Trumps is 45%.

He's never cracked 50%, and his aggregate approval has never been above his disapproval.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. I live among many who are like this.

They are holding onto power based on privilege alone, relying on their fabricated reputations to sustain their authority.

You know, if someone is using their authority to improve their lot and skirt the laws, they will fight tooth and nail to be king of the stupid people that are falling in place for them. The only way to return balance to the system is to force them to face the music. Find some way to wake up the legal authorities who have been dormant for too long.

Thankfully, on a federal level, we have Mueller doing just that.

[Phoenix61]

4. Looked over the actual poll and there were

so few people polled between the ages of 18-50 that they couldn't give stats for those age ranges. What's left is 50 and over which I would expect to lean conservative.

[JDC]

6. Interesting. Thx

[triron]

35. So still lots of people over 50 being duped. Unbelievable.

Conservative is one thing. Supporting a treasonous president is another.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Oh, one day after I complain about the 38% Trump stolid poll number,

we finally slip down to 37%. Well, that's something.

[Andy823]

14. I don't buy the numbers either

I agree with what you said yesterday, I don't think that 848 people can speak for the entire country, or that 37% of 848, 313.76, provide and accurate number or trumps support. I think it's a lot less. More like mid twenties. Just my opinion of course.

[Baitball Blogger]

19. Thank you.

I agree with you. At least low 30%. Low enough to break whatever shield that 38% seems to be providing him.

[2naSalit]

24. Same here...

and, what questions were asked and how? Also, the reason they don't get the mid range population segment is because of cell phones, I think they are still not allowed to conduct surveys on cell phones.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. The landline total respondents were 303 and there were 545 cell phone respondents.

The study was conducted for CNN via telephone by SSRS, an independent research company. Interviews were
conducted from January 10 to January 11, 2019 among a sample of 848 respondents. The landline total
respondents were 303 and there were 545 cell phone respondents. The margin of sampling error for total
respondents is +/-4.1 at the 95% confidence level. The design effect is 1.46. More information about SSRS can be
obtained by visiting www.ssrs.com. Unless otherwise noted, results beginning with the March 31-April 2, 2006
survey and ending with the April 22-25, 2017 survey are from surveys conducted by ORC International. Results
before March 31, 2006 are from surveys conducted by Gallup

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/01/12/rel1.pdf

BTW that clown had a 45% approval rating among voters in the mid terms.That's an exit poll of people who were queried after they voted:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11660717

We need to step out of our bubbles. Deplorables do exist. After all he received 46% of the popular vote. I do rhetorical online combat with them everyday on other sites.

[2naSalit]

48. Still a pretty small sample size

and exit polling also matters where you do that polling. Stats are easily manipulated and short be viewed with caution toward that end. A small sample is not a good representation of a general population, especially < 1,000 respondents.

And then there's the framing and wording of the questions weighted against the purpose if the survey to begin with. SO many variables in the simplest of polls indicates that they should not be taken as solid info.

I'm sure there's a population of those who buy the bull, I live among them, but they really don't represent 1/3 of us, I just can't see where there's a solid, unchanging avg. 35%.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. He did get 46% of the vote...

He did get 46% of the vote and 45% of Americans voted for the Republican candidate in the mid terms. Deplorables live among us.

[Dopers_Greed]

34. It looks worse for him when you break down the "approval" numbers

Last I saw, the "strongly approve" category was pathetic...I think in the teens or twenties.

[ooky]

37. I think they forgot to poll many of the people who's finances are directly impacted

by his hostage taking.

An interesting poll would be approval numbers only by Federal workers not getting paychecks. It wouldn't shock me if the slip from 38% to 37% comprehends those few voters out of the 848 respondents.

[njhoneybadger]

38. It depends where live. All the people I know who voted for him still approve

These people will not watch CNN or MSNBC. They listen to Limbaugh daily and the local paper is
In the tank for tRump. They go to chruch on Sunday and are told Democrats are doing the devils work.

[democratisphere]

8. Still 37% approve of the job drumpf is doing.

Do the 37% have any Intelligence at all?!

[paleotn]

16. No, they don't. Well, not much at least...

Some are heavily propagandized. Some are authoritarians, with a deep seeded need to be lead. But in my mind, all of that goes back to overall intelligence. Research shows intelligence to be a strong predictor of approval or disapproval of 45. The left tail loves him because he's one of their own. They identify with stupidity.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550618800494

[calimary]

21. I'd rather see the approval numbers in the 30s than the 40s.

[paleotn]

25. Here's another. From a few years ago....

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886915002925

[Buckeyeblue]

9. I predict this thing ends tomorrow

These poll numbers will be McConnell's told you so moment. 45 will grudgingly sign the CR while claiming the fight over the wall will go on. Then 45 will go hold a series of third reich rallies to make himself feel better.

[duforsure]

10. The American people

Are running from trump and the gop at a faster pace now, which will only get faster as trump and the gop are exposed for their organized criminal activities against our country in the coming weeks and months, and with this stupid trump shutdown. They will see the wrath of the American people when the next election gets here, and they could be out of power for decades from everything they've done to hurt this country by allowing putin to infiltrate and help in the destruction of OUR Democracy. It'll be the worst mistake a political party has ever made to work for trump and putin over OUR country. 2020 will be hell for trump and the gop, and putin.

[torius]

11. which situation at the border do they mean?

The separated families at the border certainly is a crisis.

[MagicPond]

12. Why not?

give him the wall? He's so damn desperate to get it, couldn't we rake him over the coals? Give him 5 billion for the wall while he gives us 50 billion. At this point I bet he would think that's a great deal

[Pobeka]

18. Because he'll pull that shutdown sh#t over and over if he gets away with it this time. n/t

[calimary]

22. I doubt he'd do anything but take.

[2naSalit]

26. Nope.

His rationale doesn't allow for anything other than getting his way and if we did give him what he wants... he'll make a bigger demand to avoid opening the gov't. And then if he did allow opening the gov't, he'll be doing it again as soon as he and pootine come up with another diversion for us, it will never end until we remove him from office, one way or another.

He needs to be removed from office immediately, like by sunset today.

[MagicPond]

39. 2020

is just right around the corner. He's definitely going to be a one termer

[2naSalit]

44. One termer for certain, can't be removed soon enough

and 2020 is too far away.

[MagicPond]

53. Pence next

I prefer 2020. If we remove Trump before then, Pence will take his place. We gain nothing

[2naSalit]

54. That's why timing is so

crucial here. Pence will likely be removed before MF45, but just before such that whey are removed together.

Not sure how this plays out, I just have an intense feeling that we are going to be really surprised in a couple-few days.

[MagicPond]

55. On what grounds

would Pence be removed? I haven't heard of any dirt circulating on him

[triron]

13. WTF is wrong with 37% of the country? They support a fucking traitor?

[getagrip_already]

20. it's 37% of people 50 and older that answered their phone........

See the post above that looked at the poll stats. Virtually no rep in the 18-50 age group.

Probably all land line calls. NOBODY answers calls on cell they don't know anymore. The bastards are spoofing phone numbers and still getting through. I've even seen calls from MY phone number! I don't trust cell phone calls and don't answer.

It ISN'T 37% of the country.

[2naSalit]

27. +1

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. "Probably all land line calls."

The study was conducted for CNN via telephone by SSRS, an independent research company. Interviews were
conducted from January 10 to January 11, 2019 among a sample of 848 respondents. The landline total
respondents were 303 and there were 545 cell phone respondents. The margin of sampling error for total
respondents is +/-4.1 at the 95% confidence level. The design effect is 1.46. More information about SSRS can be
obtained by visiting www.ssrs.com. Unless otherwise noted, results beginning with the March 31-April 2, 2006
survey and ending with the April 22-25, 2017 survey are from surveys conducted by ORC International. Results
before March 31, 2006 are from surveys conducted by Gallup

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/01/12/rel1.pdf

Last time i will say it in this post. We desperately need to step out of our bubbles. Deplorables do exist. After all that malignant clown did get 46% of the vote and 45% of the nation voted for Republicans in the mid terms.

[getagrip_already]

52. Ok, so some cell phones were hit, what about the age

Demographic?

I'm not saying there aren't deplorable, just that these surveys are more entertainment than news.

[lancelyons]

15. The only people saying Democrats are responsible are Trumpsters.

The only people saying Democrats are responsible are Trumpsters.

that number of 32/33% against Dems is always built in. These are Trumpsters that will always say its the Dems fault no matter what.

[Butterflylady]

17. Come on, it's lower than that.

I do not believe these polls are correct. Too many variables.

[2naSalit]

29. Tiny sample size tells you nothing of value...nt

[orangecrush]

23. K+R

[ZeroSomeBrains]

28. K&R

[BigOleDummy]

30. Totally accurate or not

I feel ashamed a good third of my fellow countrymen and women can still support this treasonous racist. Something is very wrong with us as a nation.

[ProudLib72]

31. So even though Rump explicitly stated that only he was to blame for the shutdown

people want to blame Dems?

HE FUCKING OWNED IT!!!!

I feel I have a perfect right to want to slap a lot of people.

[underpants]

32. Uh oh Trump

The increase in disapproval for the President comes primarily among whites without college degrees, 45% of whom approve and 47% disapprove, marking the first time his approval rating with this group has been underwater in CNN polling since February 2018. In December, his approval rating with whites who have not received a four-year degree stood at 54%, with 39% disapproving.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. His numbers are abysmal.

Those are not re-elect numbers.

[underpants]

46. As I posted 3 weeks ago

Via NPR - the White House thinking is wall money now or no re-election.
He is going to have to declare an emergency unless enough Senate Republicans bail him out by bailing on him.

[beachbum bob]

33. Need to see lower numbers than that for McConnel to move

[underpants]

36. WaPo ABC News poll on shutdown blame and WALL support

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211665067#post7

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Roughly mirrors the CNN findings

[underpants]

45. Yes it does.

That's why I added it to your post. When I saw your post I thought I'd duped.

Notice that WaPo goes a year back to make it seem that WALL has gained support - it has but a lot of that is simply from publicity (I'd guess).

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. It's gained support from Trumplicans.

If he advocated building a moat around the wall with alligators or a electrified fence those cretins would support that too.

[Scurrilous]

50. K&R