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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:22 AM Aug 2012

Politifact: Ryan Supports Banning Abortions for Rape And Incest

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/aug/17/barack-obama/obama-says-ryan-supports-banning-all-abortions/

Our conclusion

President Obama, through a campaign tweet, pegged Paul Ryan as supporting a ban on abortions, "even in cases of rape or incest."

Ryan does oppose those exceptions. Obama’s Twitter claim misfires in saying Ryan supports banning "all" abortions. In some cases, he has supported an exception for when a mother’s life is at stake.

That’s an important detail that is left out. We rate Obama’s claim Half True.


Obama said Ryan opposed a ban on all abortions. He was mistaken on that. Ryan agrees 100% with Todd Akin that a tubal pregnancy or other life-threatening pregnancies where the fetus will die anyway can be exceptions. And Ryan agrees 100% with Todd Akin that abortions for pregnancies from Rape or Incest should be illegal.

The Romney Campaign can make any statement they want. But Ryan is in 100% agreement with Todd Akin on this issue.
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Politifact: Ryan Supports Banning Abortions for Rape And Incest (Original Post) berni_mccoy Aug 2012 OP
This is Politifact's problem dennis4868 Aug 2012 #1
Politi"fact" (fact in quotes) BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #2
Romney is also on record telling Huckabee he supports a personhood bill. summerschild Aug 2012 #3

dennis4868

(9,774 posts)
1. This is Politifact's problem
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:33 AM
Aug 2012

they ALWAYS go out of their way to find some small truth in connection with a GOP statement or action or policy position...they never do that for the Dems..NEVER!

BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
2. Politi"fact" (fact in quotes)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:36 AM
Aug 2012

missed the fact that Ryan is co-sponsored a "fetal personhood" bill that basically says that an embryo is considered a "person" which thus makes it murder if you abort, no matter what (thus banning abortion in another way).

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/romney-statement-on-abortion-appears-to-contradict-ryans-earlier-position/

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr212

So Politi"fact" gets the Pinocchio award for trying so hard to push the "both sides do it" nonsense.

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