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struggle4progress

(118,301 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:55 PM Jan 2019

Lying Fuckwad Halfwit Speaks

President Donald Trump on Thursday made the latest in a long line of contradictory statements about his proposed southern border wall and how it would be funded — this time announcing he never intended for Mexico to literally pay for the barrier.

“I knew the fake news likes to say it — when during the campaign I would say, ‘Mexico is going to pay for it,’ obviously I never said this, and I never meant they’re gonna write out a check. I said they’re going to pay for it. They are,” the president told reporters.

“Mexico is paying for the wall indirectly,” he continued, arguing that a recently agreed-upon trade deal between Mexico, Canada and the U.S., known as the USMCA, would cover the cost of the wall via the deal’s more favorable terms.

The underlying math of this argument doesn’t add up ...


Said Over and Over 'Mexico Is Going to Pay'; Now He Says He Didn't Mean Literally
SAM GILLETTE
January 10, 2019 05:41 PM
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Lying Fuckwad Halfwit Speaks (Original Post) struggle4progress Jan 2019 OP
Correction: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #1
Well, Rump, when the judge says you are going to prison for a long time ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #2
His campaign even put it in writing. herding cats Jan 2019 #3
Is he still talking about an actual wall? gratuitous Jan 2019 #4

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
3. His campaign even put it in writing.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:00 PM
Jan 2019
Introduction: The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326 - the "know your customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR 130.120-121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5- 10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:

 On day 1 promulgate a "proposed rule" (regulation) amending 31
CFR 130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include
money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien
first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.

 On day 2 Mexico will immediately protest. They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico.

 On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.

More: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0ewU-Tmb2B2nczlyIc1NQELPGH2YjGTM6REFEzCzYYaJcqwTozpnpezrM


This was their original "plan" both from Trump's mouth and his official campaign was to extort $5-10 billion from the Mexican government.

That was his promise and he needs to honor it and not foist this unnecessary burden off on American tax payers. Make México pay for it. Don't steal from disaster relief funds!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Is he still talking about an actual wall?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:03 PM
Jan 2019

Didn't the administration walk it back last week for a couple of hours to say that the wall wasn't really a wall wall but more of a metaphysical metaphorical wall? It's almost as if Trump will say anything at anytime and his word isn't worth the breath it takes to say it.

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