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babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:35 AM Jan 2019

An investigative journalist explains why Mueller will take down the entire Trump family

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/investigative-journalist-explains-mueller-will-take-entire-trump-family/?fbclid=IwAR171xvkZNN1xDufOLl69UsTwXz_HFwSwB_-WQJ07GjXj0n0KVZAj7lANvM

An investigative journalist explains why Mueller will take down the entire Trump family
Dean Obeidallah, Salon
10 Jan 2019 at 09:54 ET

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“Proof of Collusion,” which includes 1,600-plus citations and synthesizes hundreds of major media investigative reports on Trump and Russia, outlines how Trump has been traveling to Russia since the late 1980s and how Kremlin-backed talking points became the basis of his first political aspirations.

The book also connects the dots on how Trump sought and apparently received funding from Russian banks tied to the Kremlin in the late 1990s and 2000s, when American banks would no longer lend him money. Ivanka Trump famously got a special private tour of Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin office in 2006, conducted by Trump’s Russian-born ally Felix Sater. She even sat in Putin’s chair.

That’s why when Donald Trump Jr. received an email in June 2016, telling him that Russia’s well-connected Agalarov family wanted to help Trump’s campaign by offering “dirt” on Hillary Clinton as part of the Russian government’s support for his father, his reaction was not one of bewilderment or outrage. He simply wrote, “I love it.”

Abramson’s book is a road map that leads to one clear conclusion: Donald Trump and others in his family should be charged with crimes. Without the history that Abramson lays out in great detail, many may not see that or understand why.

As far as what happens next in Mueller’s investigation, Abramson shared this. “We should expect that impeachment proceedings will begin against Donald Trump at some point during 2019. We expect impeachment would pass once we have all the evidence that Robert Mueller has, which is much more than even what’s in ‘Proof of Collusion,’” he told me on “Salon Talks.”

Abramson continued, “The question would be whether 67 senators would vote to convict. If it’s looking like that’s going to happen, there’s a lot of speculation that Donald Trump would attempt to negotiate his resignation, in exchange for some sort of immunity from prosecution for him and his children. That would be an unprecedented maneuver by federal prosecutors, so I don’t even know if that’s possible.”
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An investigative journalist explains why Mueller will take down the entire Trump family (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2019 OP
That would be interesting Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #1
No Sanity Claws Jan 2019 #2
Trump and family are also facing a slew of state charges, Qutzupalotl Jan 2019 #5
NO Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #6
Abramson didn't stop with the book Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #3
Here is a link to the story on Salon, which published it originally. hedda_foil Jan 2019 #4
Kicking KewlKat Jan 2019 #7

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
1. That would be interesting
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:43 AM
Jan 2019

If there was a negotiated resignation, would it need congressional approval?

Honestly, as long as the negotiated resignation was fully disclosed, I would be fine with it. The entire family would live out in total disgrace because everyone would know what they did to the country.

And everyone who supported him would have to eat shit.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
2. No
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jan 2019

Agnew's resignation was negotiated and done without congressional approval.

Nixon resigned after being approached by Republicans telling him he would be impeached. Of course, we don't know what was said. Did they negotiate that he resign and that Ford would pardon him? Maybe. In any event, there was no congressional approval.

Qutzupalotl

(14,317 posts)
5. Trump and family are also facing a slew of state charges,
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jan 2019

which cannot be negotiated away by the feds, as far as I know. I am skeptical that Trump would take a deal that wipes away his federal charges in exchange for living for decades in state prison.

Resignation would be a better course for the country than impeachment or legal fights, but Trump is stubborn, stupid and cornered, and does not give a damn about our country — just Russia and his own skin.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
6. NO
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

If the family is allowed to slink away, they will not stop. Remember? He always punches back harder. That's his motto.

Trump and family and brand must be stripped of all assets and restricted from doing business.

They must either serve prison time (after due process) or be on federal parole in perpetuity. Passports pulled.

They must be humiliated and made an example.

They should feel lucky if they don't get the Rosenberg treatment.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,356 posts)
3. Abramson didn't stop with the book
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jan 2019

There have been several 'unrolled' threads by Abramson posted here on DU, such as
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211497781
where he continues tying things together.

Just excellent work.

As the article in the OP says, "Much of the media does us a disservice in its coverage of Donald Trump’s ties to Russia and his possible conspiracy with the Russians to help win the 2016 presidential election. What they leave out is the history of Trump’s Russia relations, which is necessary to properly assess the facts and allegations."

Much of the media, more specifically much of tv, just jumps from trumptantrum to trumptantrum. Abramson and a few others actually dig for connections and context.

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