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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:01 AM Jan 2019

Tulsi Gabbard is providing right-wingers with ammunition to accuse Kamala Harris

of anti-Catholic bigotry. Gabbard is lying. Harris isn't anti-Catholic. She does object to certain Catholics on the court, like Kavanaugh and other right-wingers.

I wondered why I was seeing references to Kamala Harris being anti-Catholic, because I'd never noticed this myself. It seems that Tulsi Gabbard is one of the ring-leaders.

For example:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/congresswoman-blasts-religious-bigotry-against-knights-of-columbus-catholic-nominees-99597

In December, CNA reported that Senators Mazie Hirono (D-HI) and Kamala Harris (D-CA) raised concerns about a judicial nominee’s Catholic faith and membership of the Knights of Columbus. The issues were raised in questions put to Brian C. Buescher, an Omaha-based lawyer nominated by President Trump to sit on the United States District Court for the District of Nebraska.

In her questions, Hirono said that “the Knights of Columbus has taken a number of extreme positions” by supporting basic Catholic beliefs regarding abortion and marriage.

The Knights of Columbus has nearly 2 million members. Last year they carried out more than 75 million hours of volunteer work and raised more than $185 million for charitable purposes.

Harris described the Knights as “an all-male society” which is “opposed a woman’s right to choose” and against “marriage equality.” In the light of his Catholic faith and membership of the Knights, both senators questioned Buescher’s ability to apply the law fairly and objectively as judge.

Referring to Hirono and Harris’s questions to Buescher, Gabbard wrote that while she personally opposed his candidacy for a judgeship, she “stands strongly against those who are fomenting religious bigotry, citing as disqualifiers Buescher’s Catholicism and his affiliation with the Knights of Columbus.”

“The party that worked so hard to convince people that Catholics and Knights of Columbus like Al Smith and John F. Kennedy could be both good Catholics and good public servants shows an alarming disregard of its own history in making such attacks today.”


https://www.wbur.org/news/2017/05/25/kennedy-catholicism-presidential-campaign

"I am not the Catholic candidate for president. I am the Democratic party's candidate for president, who happens also to be a Catholic. I do not speak for my church on public matters, and the church does not speak for me," Kennedy told Greater Houston Ministerial Association.
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still_one

(92,251 posts)
6. I agree, but unfortunately Harris made a mistake on this one. She should have gone after the
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:31 AM
Jan 2019

nomination on the basis of the individuals views on the issues, not based on their religion

This will hurt her chances I am afraid




vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. yes well, the neo-Fascists will start tarring and sliming our leading Dems nonstop now
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jan 2019

Donald Trump has shown them the way. Viciousness and a mean spirit is their stock in trade. So everyone stay calm and don't get upset about the filthy depths to which Gabbard and her ilk will plunge. It is to be expected. We don't get angry at a poison snake that lurks in the swamp. Hatred is poison, and they are full of it. They have no honor, no virtue. They have only hate.

Let's just stay focused on selecting and supporting winning Dems to replace them. We need to defeat a whole lot of senators.

still_one

(92,251 posts)
5. I hate to say this because I dispise Gabbard, but she has a point in this case. Harris should not
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jan 2019

have brought religion into it. This is reminiscent of the anti-Catholic propaganda used during John F. Kennedy's run for President, that he would be taking his "orders from the pope".


I also believe that John Kennedy was a member of the Knights of Columbus. So was John Dingell, according to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Knights_of_Columbus


Just as an aside I am not a Catholic nor a fan of Gabbard




pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
8. I disagree. Kennedy made it clear he'd keep his religious views and political views separate.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:32 AM
Jan 2019

The judges Harris were questioning have not.

still_one

(92,251 posts)
9. Then you oppose it based on the issues, not based on his religion. You can keep those seperate very
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jan 2019

easily. She made an error in judgement on this one, and I am a fan Kamila Harris, she is my Senator

It opens up an unecessary bag of worms


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