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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 10:26 AM Jan 2019

Prototype for Trump's steel border-wall was destroyed with a metal-saw during test.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856



But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slat prototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS.

A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol personnel were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.

The Trump administration directed the construction of eight steel and concrete prototype walls that were built in Otay Mesa, California, just across the border from Tijuana, Mexico. Trump inspected the prototypes in March 2018. He has now settled on a steel slat, or steel bollard, design for the proposed border barrier additions. Steel bollard fencing has been used under previous administrations.

However, testing by DHS in late 2017 showed all eight prototypes, including the steel slats, were vulnerable to breaching, according to an internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report.
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Prototype for Trump's steel border-wall was destroyed with a metal-saw during test. (Original Post) DetlefK Jan 2019 OP
Hmmmm. Maybe he should consider a crocodile filled moat, in front of the wall. Siwsan Jan 2019 #1
I don't think this was cut by a saw. 3_Limes Jan 2019 #2
A bone saw would work. nt DesertRat Jan 2019 #4
Good point underpants Jan 2019 #6
The report said they were testing "household tools." nolabear Jan 2019 #9
They used a variety of portable tools. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #11
an angle grinder running on lithion batteries could do that Mosby Jan 2019 #13
Good point, a torch would be quicker and more reliable. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #15
fuck the wall bdamomma Jan 2019 #3
Looks like Trump brand steel DesertRat Jan 2019 #5
He's got a genius testing this stuff underpants Jan 2019 #7
... demmiblue Jan 2019 #8
Well to me the spacing between the slats should be no more than 1/4 inch bluestarone Jan 2019 #10
Would not matter one lick to a high BTU torch. Blue_true Jan 2019 #16
What brand tools ? Someone should try to get some advertising out of that. eppur_se_muova Jan 2019 #12
Imagine what a dude or dudette that has a shielded, high BTU torch can do to it? nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #14
Of course. A portable reciprocating saw with a metal cutting MineralMan Jan 2019 #17

3_Limes

(363 posts)
2. I don't think this was cut by a saw.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 10:30 AM
Jan 2019

Sure looks like a torch cut this steel. Which may just be picking nits, but there is a difference.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
9. The report said they were testing "household tools."
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jan 2019

Apparently what could be carried with immigrants.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
11. They used a variety of portable tools.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jan 2019

I agree, there are indications of torch burned steel there.

Nothing is going to stop breeches in a 2000 mile fence.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
13. an angle grinder running on lithion batteries could do that
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:15 PM
Jan 2019

And they make portable torches.

A battery operated reciprocating saw could also work.

bluestarone

(16,978 posts)
10. Well to me the spacing between the slats should be no more than 1/4 inch
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:07 AM
Jan 2019

This would help BUT not stop this.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. Would not matter one lick to a high BTU torch.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jan 2019

Maybe thickness would, but how much money is Trump going to spend on an idiotic idea?

eppur_se_muova

(36,271 posts)
12. What brand tools ? Someone should try to get some advertising out of that.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jan 2019

Maybe SNL can take a whack at a commercial ....

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. Of course. A portable reciprocating saw with a metal cutting
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jan 2019

blade will cut through that stuff just fine. Now, there are steel alloys for which that isn't true, but they're way too expensive for such use. I remember buying a boat trailer a few years ago. I needed to shorten the tongue of the trailer by six inches. It was made of 4" steel square tubing, about the weight of the steel in that photo.

Making the cut took roughly 45 seconds with a cheap reciprocating saw from Harbor Freight. Mine was a corded model, but the rechargable portable ones work just as well. The saw cost $35. The six inch long metal cutting blade cost about $5. It went through that steel, which is similar in grade to what I see in that photo, with no problem at all. I was surprised, frankly.

A disk-type grinder would also work, and those grinders are also available at Harbor Freight for about the same price.

If that's the best they can come up with, they'll pose little real barrier effect to border crosssers.



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