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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:03 AM Jan 2019

William Arkin on Homeland Security's Creeping Fascism and Why the CIA & FBI Won't Save Us from Trump

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/9/william_arkin_on_homeland_securitys_creeping

Longtime NBC reporter and analyst William Arkin announced he was leaving the network last week in a blistering letter that took aim at the mainstream media for encouraging perpetual warfare and bolstering the national security state. In his letter, Arkin writes of Trump, “Of course he is an ignorant and incompetent impostor. And yet I’m alarmed at how quick NBC is to mechanically argue the contrary, to be in favor of policies that just spell more conflict and more war. Really? We shouldn’t get out Syria? We shouldn’t go for the bold move of denuclearizing the Korean peninsula? Even on Russia, though we should be concerned about the brittleness of our democracy that it is so vulnerable to manipulation, do we really yearn for the Cold War? And don’t even get me started with the FBI: What? We now lionize this historically destructive institution?” We speak with Arkin in New York City. He is the author of many books, including “Top Secret America: The Rise of the New American Security State.”

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/9/william_arkin_on_homeland_securitys_creeping
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William Arkin on Homeland Security's Creeping Fascism and Why the CIA & FBI Won't Save Us from Trump (Original Post) G_j Jan 2019 OP
Interesting. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #1
Never ceases to amaze me that so many liberals think the FBI is going to save us from Traitor don Va Lefty Jan 2019 #2
perhaps liberals don't exactly trust the FBI (not at all) yet, have quite a bit of confidence CharleyDog Jan 2019 #3
The GOPs are doing the same with the courts. Iliyah Jan 2019 #4
k and r Achilleaze Jan 2019 #5
K G_j Jan 2019 #6
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2019 #7

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
2. Never ceases to amaze me that so many liberals think the FBI is going to save us from Traitor don
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:25 AM
Jan 2019

"...there are a lot of liberals in America who believe that the CIA and the FBI is going to somehow save the country from Donald Trump. Well, I’m sorry, I’m not a particular fan of either the CIA or the FBI. And the FBI, in particular, has a deplorable record in American society, from Martin Luther King and the peace movements of the 1960s all the way up through Wen Ho Lee and others who have been persecuted by the FBI. And there’s no real evidence that the FBI is either—is that competent of an institution, to begin with, in terms of even pursuing the prosecutions that it’s pursuing. But yet we lionize them. We hold them up on a pedestal, that somehow they are the truth tellers, that they’re the ones who are getting to the bottom of things, when there’s just no evidence that that’s the case."

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
3. perhaps liberals don't exactly trust the FBI (not at all) yet, have quite a bit of confidence
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:39 AM
Jan 2019

in Robert Mueller. We have read of his sterling character, and see he has indicted quite a few treasonous corrupt players, and has gotten quite a few guilty pleas. That's where we have some confidence. That and Adam Schiff, John Lewis, and Kamala Harris et al to steer us back toward land. The USA has never been a perfect union, and many humans are, in fact, basically killer selfish greedy bastards that screw over their own grandmothers for a dime not to mention the environment and the wildlife of our planet.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. The GOPs are doing the same with the courts.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:46 AM
Jan 2019

Unfortunately the CIA/FBI loyalists are geared in my opinion towards Pence. He is the ultimate Evangelist Right Winger.

Here's having a "little faith" in our democracy, and as MLK said "we shall overcome".

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