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Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:11 AM Aug 2012

Todd Akin, Paul Ryan, and Redefining Rape

from Nick Baumann at Mother Jones: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/todd-akin-paul-ryan-redefining-rape


On Sunday, Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.), who is challenging Sen. Claire McCaskill in the Missouri Senate race, used an interview with a local television station to defend his belief that abortion should be illegal even in cases of rape: He claimed that women who are the victims of "legitimate rape" are unlikely to become pregnant. Akin said that the female body has "biological defenses" that prevent rape victims from getting pregnant. (That's not true.) The implication of his position is that if you were raped and became pregnant, you must have actually wanted it—it wasn't really rape.

This isn't the first time Akin has expressed fringe views about rape in the context of the abortion debate. Last year, Akin, vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), and most of the House GOP co-sponsored a bill that would have narrowed the already-narrow exceptions to the laws banning federal funding for abortion—from all cases of rape to cases of "forcible rape."

After I reported on the "forcible rape" language in January 2011, a wave of outcry from abortion-rights, progressive, and women's groups led the Republicans to remove it. But a few months later, in a congressional committee report, Republicans wrote that they believed the bill would continue to have the same effect despite the absence of the "forcible" language.

So why was the "forcible" language so important? Pro-life advocates believed they needed to include the word "forcible" in the law to pre-empt what National Right to Life Committee lobbyist Doug Johnson called a "brazen" effort by Planned Parenthood and other groups to obtain federal funding for abortions for any teenager by (falsely) claiming statutory rape. Abortion rights groups, Johnson warned, wanted to "federally fund the abortion of tens of thousands of healthy babies of healthy moms, based solely on the age of their mothers." Richard Doerflinger, the US Council of Catholic Bishops' top anti-abortion lobbyist, echoed Johnson in congressional testimony, arguing that the "forcible" language was "an effort on the part of the sponsors to prevent the opening of a very broad loophole for federally funded abortions for any teenager." Planned Parenthood flatly denied having a plan to open up such a loophole.

The idea that women who are "legitimate" rape victims can't get pregnant has currency in some corners of the fringe right. Akin embraces it. Does he embrace the conspiracy theory about the need for the "forcible rape" language, too?

read: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/todd-akin-paul-ryan-redefining-rape


Todd Arkin, Paul Ryan and the very real war on women

Two words that should never be used together in the same sentence: legitimate and rape. But that’s the way Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) chose to speak about the sensitive topic that has impacted millions of women in the United States in an interview with a local television station Sunday.

____ Akin and Ryan were the original co-sponsors of the controversial bill H.R. 3, “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” which initially included language which changed the definition of “rape” to “forcible rape,” until public pressure forced the bill’s supporters to remove that unacceptable and narrow definition. As I wrote previously, Paul Ryan is not just anti-choice, his anti-choice views are extreme and just plain bad for all women.

Linking Ryan to Akin and the idea that there is such a thing as “legitimate rape” based on pseudo-science and folklore is something that needs to be done before the upcoming election. While Team Romney attempted to create distance with Akin, saying that both Romney and Ryan “disagree” with his statements, there was nothing in their statement that said they condemn his remarks as hurtful to victims. There was also nothing in Team Romney’s statement that pointed out that what Akin said about pregnancies resulting from rape being rare is just flat-out wrong.

Ryan was against abortion in all cases including rape until Team Romney’s statement . . .

read: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/08/todd-arkin-paul-ryan-and-the-very-real-war-on-women


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Todd Akin, Paul Ryan, and Redefining Rape (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2012 OP
The roll call for the final 251-175 vote ProgressiveEconomist Aug 2012 #1
Thank God republicans can now legally, legitimately rape women at will Philosoraptor Aug 2012 #2

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1. The roll call for the final 251-175 vote
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:32 AM
Aug 2012

is at http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/292 , along with links to complete texts of all versions of the bill.

All 175 votes against the bill were cast by Democrats, and all Republicans (except 6 who did not vote) voted in favor of HR 3, the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act".
One Democrat (Gabby Giffords) did not vote, and 17 Democrats voted with the Republicans to pass the bill.

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