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RDANGELO

(3,434 posts)
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 09:53 AM Jan 2019

Democrats ignore the rise of independents at their own peril.

Last edited Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

A recent out by Gallup has people declaring to be independents at 42%. People are becoming independents for a reason. It has been true that most of them lean one way or the other, but they are also more likely to switch over, and with it getting this high, it makes me wonder. The days where 90% percent of the voters were either Democrats or Republicans are no longer with us. We can not win a national election with just the Democrats.

What they seem to value more than others in the two major parties is authenticity and honesty, less on ideology. If we nominate a presidential candidate for 2020 that is unpopular with independents, that could be a big mistake.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245801/americans-continue-embrace-political-independence.aspx?g_source=link_NEWSV9&g_medium=TOPIC&g_campaign=item_&g_content=Americans%2520Continue%2520to%2520Embrace%2520Political%2520Independence

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Democrats ignore the rise of independents at their own peril. (Original Post) RDANGELO Jan 2019 OP
Do you have a link to said poll? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #1
Most new "independents" are repubs who don't want to be called repubs anymore. Liberal In Texas Jan 2019 #2
Agreed. n/t FSogol Jan 2019 #5
True that. nt zanana1 Jan 2019 #8
THIS. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #11
That's been going on for years and years... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #12
You mean this from data collected in 2017 BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #3
I was just reading that, FM123 Jan 2019 #4
Unless you have a different link, the article came out A YEAR AGO BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #6
No wonder! Yes, I now realize the article was Jan 8 2018, not 2019 FM123 Jan 2019 #9
A certain someone in the WH stole a year from us!!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #10
Independents get alot of attention from campaign staff and volunteers. zanana1 Jan 2019 #7

Liberal In Texas

(13,570 posts)
2. Most new "independents" are repubs who don't want to be called repubs anymore.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:00 AM
Jan 2019

Don't want to be associated with all the crazy awful crap the party is doing now days. They're still voting repub just don't call themselves that.

Wounded Bear

(58,698 posts)
12. That's been going on for years and years...
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 11:28 AM
Jan 2019

I don't know how many folks I've heard from who claim 'independent' status, but spout the typical RW/Faux Noise talking points.

They tend to complain that everything has been drifting too far to the "left" and that the Repubs are 'just like the Dems' these days so they can't be part of the Repub party. But, like you say, they always complain loudest about the latest "libtard" politicians and actions.

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
3. You mean this from data collected in 2017
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:00 AM
Jan 2019

with a report issued literally a year ago today in 2018?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/225056/americans-identification-independents-back-2017.aspx



I think this last midterm election established quite clearly who these folks planned to vote for and did vote for.

And as a note - Gallup announced late last year that they were no longer going to focus on domestic U.S. political polling. They planned to go "global". They certainly had their kamikaze swan song after the 2012 polling debacle.

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
6. Unless you have a different link, the article came out A YEAR AGO
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:06 AM
Jan 2019

- this year is 2019!!! Today is January 8, 2019.

Politics
January 8, 2018
Americans' Identification as Independents Back Up in 2017
by Jeffrey M. Jones

https://news.gallup.com/poll/225056/americans-identification-independents-back-2017.aspx


Edit to add - see this as FYI -

Gallup retreats from political polling again under new leadership

The well-known polling firm is adopting a 'more global perspective' that de-emphasizes U.S. politics.

By STEVEN SHEPARD

12/21/2018 05:11 AM EST

Updated 12/21/2018 11:40 AM EST


Gallup, the country’s best-known polling firm, is once again scaling back on the political surveys that have made it so famous. Only a year after Gallup switched its presidential tracking poll — the ever-present reading of the president’s approval rating — from daily to weekly, the company will announce Friday that it plans to measure President Donald Trump’s job-approval rating only on a monthly basis. It's all part of what the company calls its new, "more global perspective," which de-emphasizes U.S. politics.

It also includes a leadership change, with Mohamed Younis — who has focused more on polling outside the United States in nearly a decade at Gallup — replacing Frank Newport as editor in chief. Newport has served in that role since 1990.

"Gallup will discontinue almost all 'spot' polls in the U.S. — overnight polls, usually political, of immediate front-page interest — and we will reduce much of our coverage of the electorate, as it is well covered now by a plethora of polling organizations," said Jim Clifton, Gallup's chairman and CEO, in a statement shared with POLITICO. "Gallup's contribution will be deeper, long-trend dives into the most serious issues of the day worldwide, such as trust in governments, capitalism vs. socialism, and the future of work."

The shifts are part of a trend at Gallup, which already scaled back its public polling presence related to politics. After struggling in the 2012 presidential election — Gallup consistently understated then-President Barack Obama’s support — the firm largely ignored the 2016 election, despite a tradition of prolific horse-race polling.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/21/gallup-political-polling-leadership-1072151

FM123

(10,054 posts)
9. No wonder! Yes, I now realize the article was Jan 8 2018, not 2019
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jan 2019

(OK new rule, no more posting til AFTER my morning coffee)

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