I hope he does declare the emergency

[Takket]

Because it won’t work. The courts will stop it. And it will be yet another slap in the face to the military.

So let him declare it then pass a no wall CR and get the workers paid and back to work.

[Ms. Toad]

1. I hope Trump does win the Republican primary - because Clinton will mop the floor with him.

Sound familiar?

Please don't hope for things that would be a disaster if fickle voters (or fickle courts) don't act as you believe they will.

[Ahpook]

4. Ouch

What a reminder!

Let's hope to stop this madness

[Ms. Toad]

5. My spouse was in the "I hope Trump wins," camp.

I was terrified he would - I guess I have less faith in my fellow citizens than she does. Sad to have been right.

[Ahpook]

10. I never thought he would win

Then again, I never thought he would even get close.

Palin. How the fuck did she even get in a position to be considered?

Bush 2 with Cheney frothing... It goes on and on

So depressing

[Ms. Toad]

12. As the OP doesn't think the Supreme Court would uphold a declaration of a national emergency

I was afraid, all along, that there were enough stupid, bigoted people in this country to elect him. After all - look how many loved Palin.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

14. @ words 'Gorsuch' and 'Kavanaugh'.

He's trying hard to get this to the Supreme Court.

[Ms. Toad]

22. Yup.

And - given how the law on this particular issue plays out, he might not even need those two.

Presidents have broad discretion to declare national emergencies, so courts are very deferential to such declarations. The closer question is whether building a border wall can be classified as military construction - and even there, it would not necessarily take a stacked deck to reach that conclusion.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

24. Judges should have remained not partisan. Justice isnt blind anymore.

[CentralMass]

26. We will have to give Steve Schmidt a mulligan on that pick.

[Charlotte Little]

25. I was in that camp at first myself

Then, I wasn't. That was mid 2016 and I had started paying better attention.

I still remember election night when this forum went down. Makes me sick to my stomach to even think about it. I knew.

[woodsprite]

11. Exactly what I was thinking.

Nobody should be hoping or wishing anything that is not in America’s best interest. When it happened before with people hoping he’d win the nom because “we’d show them”, I totally questioned the strategy, sanity, etc. of such a statement. Even more so now that we know what it got us.

What do they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a different outcome?

[OriginalGeek]

17. I believe you misread the post.

[cwydro]

20. Lol.

Welcome to DU.

[Ms. Toad]

21. I think you've misread my post.

I was not suggesting anything about what she could accomplish going forward (or in the past, for that matter).

I was reminding the OP of the foolishness of hoping for an event that would be disastrous if it occurred because we expect voters (in Clinton's case) or judges (in this case) to act rationally and prevent the consequences of that event from materializing.

[OrlandoDem2]

2. Same here! Bring it on!

[Ilsa]

3. There are rightwingers who would revolt, I think.

They know this is wrong. I would hope part of his base would turn on him.

[jcgoldie]

6. Haven't heard that one before

[Ilsa]

7. I talked to one today.

She loves MF45, but knows that declaring a state of emergency is wrong and authoritarian.

[jcgoldie]

8. Sure hope you are right...

... but too many bruises on my skull from hitting the floor after passing out holding my breath for republicans to give a shit about our democracy.

[DUgosh]

9. Hubs says it will destroy the pub party

For good if he declares tomorrow

[madville]

13. You mean the Republicans will be "destroyed" for 99th time

They were done when they impeached Clinton.....
They were finished when they started two wars.....
They were never gonna see power again when they lost Congress in 2006.....
America would never elect Republicans again after Obama won in 2008.....
The 2013 shutdown was gonna be their last gasp......
Etc....
Etc.....

America is fickle and more impatient than ever, we probably have the House for two or three sessions then people will get complacent or vote them back in as a protest, rinse, repeat.

[Adrahil]

19. I've heard the claim....

That this is a way out for him. He declares emergency and then says he'll sign the bills because he's paying for it another way. The courts squash it, and then he rants about the courts, saying that "something must be done."

Might be the only way our for him.

[Palisade]

23. It would also be a perfect oppurtunity for the dems to point out REAL national emergencies

40,000 people dying from guns every year, looming climate disaster, out of control economic inequality, etc...

[bdamomma]

27. Getting those

Government workers back to work is a emergency not his fucking imaginary terrorists coming over the border to build his fucking wall.

I am not even listening or watching to MSNBC tonight. I hate this russian agent.