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"Sic semper tyrannis" (Original Post) edhopper Jan 2019 OP
Alerted: Inappropriate even in a fit of anger brooklynite Jan 2019 #1
"thus always to tyrants?" ffr Jan 2019 #2
Julius Caesar by William Shakespeare eShirl Jan 2019 #3
Is it because of the Lincoln assassination? MountCleaners Jan 2019 #6
What is the problem? Squinch Jan 2019 #12
The Virginia State motto MrScorpio Jan 2019 #4
Also motto of Allentown, PA Chichiri Jan 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jan 2019 #11
And while you're at it aeromanKC Jan 2019 #5
Impeachum Copulator Maternae! n/t Ron Obvious Jan 2019 #8
His threat of calling a State of Emergency edhopper Jan 2019 #7
I can understand the first reply then. ffr Jan 2019 #9
If John Wilkes Booth actually said that after shooting Lincoln, there's a connection to today's mess VOX Jan 2019 #13

ffr

(22,671 posts)
2. "thus always to tyrants?"
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:39 PM
Jan 2019

Sic semper tyrannis is a Latin phrase meaning "thus always to tyrants."

Or is there another urban meaning I'm not aware of? Doesn't sound like something requiring an Alert. Maybe if I understood the context?

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
6. Is it because of the Lincoln assassination?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:43 PM
Jan 2019

Booth uttered this phrase in Ford's Theater after assassinating Lincoln. Timothy McVeigh wore a t-shirt with this saying on it when he was arrested. I'm thinking the alerter might have thought of the saying's appeal to the far right.

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #4)

ffr

(22,671 posts)
9. I can understand the first reply then.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jan 2019

Sic semper tyrannis is a Latin phrase meaning "thus always to tyrants". It is a shortened version of the phrase "Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis" ("Thus always I bring death to tyrants&quot .

The full meaning is not appropriate for DU, even in a fit of anger. You might want to just err on the side of caution and delete the post. We all have our moments of regret. I would anyway.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
13. If John Wilkes Booth actually said that after shooting Lincoln, there's a connection to today's mess
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:09 PM
Jan 2019

Booth assassinates Lincoln, so Reconstruction becomes quite different — 4 million ex-slaves, rather than receiving education, healthy living, and 40 acres, are simply told to hit the road. Some seriously shitty Northern carpetbaggers plunder what little is left and further shame a defeated people. So they push back, and going after former slaves becomes sickeningly “heroic.” (See: D.W.Griffith’s “Birth of a Nation,” aka “The Klansman.”)

I’m not sympathetic to the South’s unholy “cause” one whit, and it is good and right that they were conquered, and the idea of the slave-based Southern Confederacy burnt to ashes.

But imagine a compassionate (and very calculating, but only for a greater-good outcome) Abe Lincoln touring the destroyed Southern cities, appealing to the best instincts of people, and offering some help with rebuilding. He might have toned down some of the hatred, some of the bitterness. (Although some hard-line “fire eaters” would not be moved, and would have to be dealt with.) But imagine a Reconstruction where Southern states are treated again as equals, in a stern but fatherly fashion (as Lincoln wanted to do) in order to soften their wayward ways, and bring them back into the fold with as little shame as possible. Imagine ex-slaves receiving reparations in 1865-67, and given training and education to enter the world as free people. But who really knows what would have happened? Assassinations evoke that speculation more than anything else.

As historian Barbara Harris has said, in the larger picture, although the outright fighting stopped in 1865, that war is still going on today, and there’s still a chance that it could be lost.

And regrettably, Harris’s fear is more applicable today than ever before.

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