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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPelosi gave Trump the 'middle finger' by only sending aides to meet with his negotiation team
During a panel discussion on Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and her new power as House Speaker again, a CNN panelist noted that the Democratic leader appears to be showing up Donald Trump whenever she can.
Addressing a budget negotiation meeting helmed by Vice President Mike Pence on Saturday, Politico political analyst Eliana Johnson:
Id add one point to the dynamic played out yesterday when Trump sent to negotiate over the shutdown was the vice president of the United States and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, she observed.
Nancy Pelosi sent two aides and a former administration official.
This is a case study of the new dynamic where she basically gave him the middle finger.
Im not sure the president picked up on that, she added to laughter from the panel.
Speaker Pelosi is not going to show up every time Trump calls for a meeting.
She is not going to 'dance to his tune'.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/pelosi-gave-trump-middle-finger-sending-aides-meet-negotiation-team-cnn-panelist/
pecosbob
(7,545 posts)spanone
(135,895 posts)and those are your aides
It's a game he thinks he invented, but she's still better at it than him.
gohuskies
(1,157 posts)Shes exposing his stupidity and arrogance. He also doesnt want to be publicly exposed as the idiot in chief because she has schooled him badly when he has tried to stage his version of the pResident Apprentice show. Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Autumn
(45,120 posts)UTUSN
(70,755 posts)AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)He was practically shouting on Sunday Morning. Probably clutched his pearls too tightly.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Competent LOYAL Aides and many loyal honest 'friends' like past presidents, past SOSs to discuss anything with.
Everyone knows including Trump, Pence is ready to jump right into the Presidents chair and Pelosi into VP chair_without even a hitch in government business!
PJMcK
(22,056 posts)If Pence becomes president, that doesn't mean Speaker Pelosi would become vice president. She is in line for the presidency, not the vice presidency. A hypothetical President Pence would be able to nominate a vice president who would have to be confirmed by both Houses of Congress.
machoneman
(4,012 posts)...that Nancy sent in the 2nd squad. No wonder the Republiscums are mad as hell.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)couch and an aide carrying smelling salts.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,024 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,941 posts)Never negotiate with someone who cannot sign off on the deal. Trump was not there. Why should she meet with two Trump lackeys just to have him approve or disapprove on the negotiated terms by Pence and Kushner?
Showing up Trump is an unintended consequence, or put another way, "icing n the cake".
In government, Trump is too stupid to know what he doesn't know.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)Eleanor Roosevelt.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)from a great Lady!
klook
(12,171 posts)and suitable for many situations.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)Limbaugh, & Coulter, Trump backed out & refused to sign it.
True Blue American
(17,994 posts)I do not blame her.
Hekate
(90,849 posts)Blue Owl
(50,523 posts)n/t
2naSalit
(86,824 posts)She has a great sense of humor and is so savvy that she can best the best. We couldn't have a better person as Speaker right now.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Stuart G
(38,449 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,638 posts)every time. Look at the DACA deal they had agreed upon then tRump does the opposite 24 hours later. Same thing with the wall. Even when he says it on camera he goes back on his word. He couldn't negotiate his way out of anything, ever. World's WORST negotiator/deal maker, unless it is with Putin of course. He sticks to that deal for over 2 years now.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)Look at what happened today!
IQ45 throws our allies into a tizzie and we lose a Secretary of Defense because the dolt announces an immediate withdrawal from Syria: "We've defeated ISIS - it's time to leave."
Well, "Stash" Bolton holds a new conference today and announces a different plan - one agreed to by allies and military experts here in the USA.
So, who do you believe - and when - and for how long?
What a FUSTERCLUCK!
BigmanPigman
(51,638 posts)We never really could. Yes, all politicians lie but the GOP does it more often and in more harmful ways. This current admin lies more than all the previous GOP administrations combined. Of course Fux Ruse and their cult/fan base believes every single word, even when it is harmful to them. Some people are just dumber than dirt and/or are willingly ignorant. I have no pity for them when their stupidity harms many innocent people who do have a brain and can think for themselves.
SWBTATTReg
(22,174 posts)their time on these stupid worthless meetings (and they shouldn't, so Yay Nancy!!).
Either yes or no, period. You had a bill put together jointly and put in front of you for signing. You didn't and you didn't communicate w/ a single soul obviously before you went off into the deep end and wasted everyone's time.
Idiot. You screwed up again.
dalton99a
(81,635 posts)SunSeeker
(51,740 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)I am so impressed with the speaker of the house and even with the new congresswomen when I listen to them speak and watch their actions. Proud to be a Democrat!
Stinky The Clown
(67,826 posts)griloco
(832 posts)lark
(23,163 posts)I remember listening to this in high school, it was so progressive at the time for a No FL radio station.
littlemissmartypants
(22,839 posts)The best way to deal with a narcissistic sociopath is to ignore them. Unfortunately she doesn't have that luxury.
This action was a good close second option. If he even gets the point. Unfortunately, he's as dense as osmium.
So he may not and will unlikely have any of his lackeys brave or honest enough to explain it to him.
If I believed in violence I'd say that a good old fashioned slap up side of the head would be more effective in getting his attention. Ignoring and belittling him as often as possible is a good start and clearly the more diplomatic approach.
Great job Madame Speaker!!!
I think AOC has the "dance" angle covered for all of us, she's so bold and brave.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)more than the last 8 years of Paul Ryan's rule
underpants
(182,938 posts)They knew it was an aides meeting. Politico is showing it's original stripes a lot lately.
DinahMoeHum
(21,812 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)fox p(R)opaganda-TV & rattle around alone in the white house fishbowl.
Cha
(297,774 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Well played!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It may have been a middle finger. But it just may have been they both sent agents. Pelosi doesn't have a VP or White House staffer who is a SIL.
True Blue American
(17,994 posts)It was a sign of how bad things are in the WhiteHouse was having bats*** crazy John Bolton negotiating.
brooklynite
(94,775 posts)Michael Vos is probably a lot more politically saavy, being married to Alexandra
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)McConnell and Boehner did all they could to humiliate Obama by turning down his invitations publicly. The tables are now turned.
niyad
(113,600 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)IIRC, the negotiations were set up to be among the staffers of each Congressional leader (Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, McCarthy) and the WH staff. I'm sure in Trump's view Pence and Kushner are "staff" as that's what everyone who is not named President Trump obviously is.