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EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 05:24 PM Jan 2019

Speaker Pelosi and the House Democrats should ask Trump for the building plans for the wall.

Ask for the engineering and construction drawings. Ask for the specifications,
site plans, bidding documents, construction schedules, list of approved bidders,
and restrictions on cost over-runs. They should ask for environmental impact
statements, plans to mitigate harm to wildlife and projected maintenance costs
for the wall. They should ask for the Pentagon's analysis of the wall's long term
effect on our security, economy and standing in the world.

Tell Trump that the American people would like to see all of this and then we can
talk about spending $5,600,000,000 on his vanity project, rather than just writing
a check and hoping for the best.

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EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
7. It would expose the half-baked nature of his proposed wall...
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:12 PM
Jan 2019

...as well as it's absurdities and potential liabilities.
Granted, he won't respond with reasonable facts and
figures. He'll blow past the questions with more of his
stream of consciousness, self-aggrandizing bullshit.
But the question will be out there, and the lack of forethought
will be obvious.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
14. no it won't. people who will actually pay attention to these details
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 07:45 PM
Jan 2019

already know what bs the whole thing is.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
8. That's what I've been saying. I want to see an architect's rendering of the plan.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jan 2019

If a bank would lend the Trump's money for a building would they do it sight unseen? Moot point, I guess, since no respectable bank will touch them. But it would be a good ploy for Nancy to use.

brush

(53,789 posts)
9. I wouldn't. Sounds too much like we're considering it.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:50 PM
Jan 2019

Puts a wall on the table and one step closer and provides wingers and their pundits talking points for its favorability.

We just need to keep saying hell no, it's immoral, antiquated technology, a waste of money, the majority of the people don't want a wall mimicking East Germany's failed iron curtain.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
12. There is already talk that we should consider funding of some sort...
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 07:32 PM
Jan 2019

...as a question of politics, not policy. Read the following article
from Talking Points Memo by John Judis about the salience of the
shutdown debate and it's costs, actual and political.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wall

I don't agree that we should back down and give Trump some funding for
his wall. I think that demanding information about the proposed construction
changes the debate to how stupid and wasteful construction of the wall would be.

Don't fund the wall. Frame the debate in 2020 not about security, like Trump wants,
but about his malfeasance in demanding a worthless boondoggle.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
10. As I have suggested before she should hold hearings
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:52 PM
Jan 2019

Invite critics of the wall, invite Trump and let Committee members 20 minutes each to ask him questions.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
11. I assume there is one dollar for the contractor and one dollar for the
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:53 PM
Jan 2019

Trumps in every aspect from start to finish. The Dems just have to start demanding to see who was contracted with and what are the terms. Can't believe no good reporters have brought this up.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
13. A close look at who built the short sections of proposed designs...
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jan 2019

...would certainly be in order. I remember reading that they
cost millions.

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