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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:46 PM Jan 2019

When Trump goes down he may try to take the country down with him.

That's what narcissists do. We know he is vengeful as hell and he never thinks he is wrong. He will blame everyone for ruining him.

That's what Hitler did we he realized he was going to lose the war. He blamed the German people and he wanted all of them to die with him.

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When Trump goes down he may try to take the country down with him. (Original Post) shockey80 Jan 2019 OP
You don't need to phrase it as a future hypothetical. He's been working on it for 2 years already. RockRaven Jan 2019 #1
Exactly! Andy823 Jan 2019 #15
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #17
isn't that what he has been doing (slowly) for two years? could speed up, though, as pressure rises NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #2
May? shithole is doing it already. Iliyah Jan 2019 #3
Yes shockey80 pdxflyboy Jan 2019 #4
May try but will only saidsimplesimon Jan 2019 #5
putin is very happy his tactic is working so well beachbum bob Jan 2019 #6
Trump enid602 Jan 2019 #7
agree. but he will fail at that too, like everything else. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #8
He WILL take the country down with him. Unless he is STOPPED. CousinIT Jan 2019 #9
At this point, what do we have to lose by acting as if Trump and McConnell are full-on Putin assets? Girard442 Jan 2019 #10
I'd say that.. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #11
Capital U Charlotte Little Jan 2019 #21
I think he's intentionally stoking this shut down because he thinks it might Baitball Blogger Jan 2019 #12
I think what he's really doing is rallying his base to him Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #19
This was the intention all along. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #13
he's doing that now. TeamPooka Jan 2019 #14
May? Try is. Autumn Jan 2019 #16
Well, let him try Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #18
Guaranteed ... GeorgeGist Jan 2019 #20

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
1. You don't need to phrase it as a future hypothetical. He's been working on it for 2 years already.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jan 2019

Almost every big decision he has made has hurt the country, both domestically and internationally. And all evidence points to it being intentional. It's not something which could happen in the future, it is happening right now, every day.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
7. Trump
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jan 2019

He won’t go down. It’s widely thought he received a billion dollar brokerage fee from Putin for the sale of his interest in Rosneft. I’m sure it’s outside the US. Mueller will let Cheeto and fam leave the country if he goes quietly..

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
9. He WILL take the country down with him. Unless he is STOPPED.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jan 2019

Oversight and investigations are fine. We NEED that. But it won't be enough.

Yale psychiatrist explains Trump’s pathology — and why he’s now more dangerous than ever

https://www.alternet.org/2019/01/yale-psychiatrist-explains-trumps-pathology-and-why-hes-now-more-dangerous-than-ever/

. . .The severity of Mr. Trump’s impairment warrants an evaluation—I do not believe there is any way around it, unless we wish to gamble with the nation’s security and, realistically, the future of humankind itself. The evaluation would offer precision around the level of dangerousness we are dealing with, the least restrictive means of managing him, and his likely future course—and of course what everyone wants, which is a diagnosis.

At the bare minimum, we should do a capacity evaluation by appropriate, independent specialists, which would determine his ability to function or not in his office, and this evaluation does not require consent. This is of course a very uncomfortable situation, but even the president has the right to treatment by law, and the nature of mental pathology is that the sicker one is, the less likely one is to recognize that anything is wrong and will avoid testing and treatment at all cost.

Not to apply the correct treatment—which is containment and an urgent evaluation—is to enable the illness, and there is no good ending to this. Oversight is fine, but to believe that we can simply proceed with the normal course of investigations without responding to the medical need is irresponsible in the lack of understanding of what level of crisis we are facing. Neither is it humane to Mr. Trump at this time; criminal responsibility is important, and he has not shown any condition that would exonerate him, but we must address first things first in an emergency. . . .


Girard442

(6,077 posts)
10. At this point, what do we have to lose by acting as if Trump and McConnell are full-on Putin assets?
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jan 2019

Seriously, are we going to miss some great opportunity to compromise or finesse the situation if it turns out they're just garden-variety sociopaths and con artists?

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
11. I'd say that..
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:03 PM
Jan 2019

This government "strike" he instigated is the first Salvo in that end times agenda for him. He's going to leave behind a pile of ash or be damned.

He (doubtless with considerable heavy lifting from others) has engineered a near-perfect fulcrum to rain down abuse and "punishment" against the American people for not getting his Wall bag money. It's not about the wall, it's about the fracture point between dems fighting political twilight and how much cruel and unusual torture Trump can inflict that we are all willing to absorb before the pacts break under pressure.

It's going to get Ugly. The capital U kind.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
19. I think what he's really doing is rallying his base to him
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 02:00 PM
Jan 2019

Because he knows he's going to need them in the coming months.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. This was the intention all along.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jan 2019

In order to weaken America and the Western Alliance by extension. Bannon even told us the plan.

Time to understand that this is not due to Trump incompetency or irrationality. This has been the plan from the getgo: Shutter government, break down the structures of the administration, replace competent career appointees with stooges and "acting" and incompetent people or empty out the agencies and leave them vacant. Ruin the economy with tariffs and taxes, cut the safety nets and pensions, furlough massive numbers of government employees. See a pattern? He's not on our side. Neither is McConnell. They are working for someone and something else other than the welfare of the citizenry and the protections of the Constitution.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
18. Well, let him try
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:59 PM
Jan 2019

The German people survived and emerged better and stronger than they were before. Today they're the most powerful country in Europe. We can do the same.

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