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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon't call it a shutdown - call it a LOCKOUT
That's what it is - Federal workers are locked out of their jobs, involuntarily, because of their greedy bosses. Too bad they can't put up those "huuuuuge" rats (and color them orange).
So drumpy wants to change the tone - fine - we can start calling it a LOCKOUT.
Thoughts?
PS - Props to hubby if you like it, blame to me of you don't. . .
hlthe2b
(102,297 posts)Surely at some point there will be grounds for a constitutional challenge for those forced to work without pay. I am curious at what point that becomes an object of discussion. (and yes, I do realize the repercussions are to lose the job, rather than being held at gunpoint or brutal beatings as was the case with true slavery, but still, it does approach forced work sans pay, something I can't imagine is consistent with our constitution over the long term).
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Deferred pay is one thing and a few days or a a pay period would likely be my definition of that. Beyond a pay period and with a requirement to continue to work, I believe the definition shifts to what you describe.
dameatball
(7,398 posts)Many are not actually locked out, as they still have to go to work. they just aren't getting paid. But I think your husband's attempt at pointing this out is a good idea. Whatever it takes to make sure Trump continues to own this boondoggle.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)many are forced to work w/o pay...
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Lockout is much more accurate.
Igel
(35,320 posts)The steel mill where my parents worked, during strikes, had lockouts. Esp. during wildcats. But that wasn't because people wanted to go in and work, they'd be more likely to go in an vandalize to keep production from continuing.
I suspect the government lockout (which is actually not a lockout, but a legal restriction on people continuing to do their pay) is largely political pressure. If the workers went in because they valued their jobs or didn't want to let work pile up or even because they were doing experiments and needed to monitor and maintain them, there'd be less pressure to force a compromise or capitulation.
Then again, some would still be into vandalism because they value that old Germanic spirit, I guess.