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NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:18 AM Jan 2019

What's Going On Here?

From the day Trump took office, the Republicans have defended him. Completely understandable. Once in the Oval Office, any buyer’s remorse – and I’m sure there was a lot of that going around – had to be swallowed in silence. There was no choice; it was time to settle in for the next four years and make the best of it, come what may.

And what did come was a disaster – a daily, scandal-ridden, unmitigated disaster. Trump’s lies, his ignorance, his incompetence was on display 24/7. And as if that wasn’t enough to contend with, his connection to Russian operatives sparked a full-scale investigation – and the further that investigation delved, the guiltier he, his family, and his associates looked.

Through it all, the powers-that-be in the GOP went from excuse-making to enabling. No matter how detrimental their “pResident’s” policies became, his party stood with him and simply ignored the damage he was causing to the country, and our international ties.

Until now, we have tended to dismiss the Republicans’ reaction as putting party over country – a desperate attempt to defend the indefensible rather than admit their party had elected a traitor. If they could put on a good show pretending their madman was sane, the party might survive the disaster that is Trump. He'd be defeated in 2020, investigative journalists would look elsewhere for headlines, and all would be forgotten by a largely inattentive populace.

But what’s happening within the GOP right now is not about party over country. They know they’re losing ground every day. They know prominent Republicans have left them, that voters have left them, that their base is slowly eroding. They also know that Mueller has the goods on Trump, and the means to prove it.

So why continue the defending, the enabling? Surely the easiest way out of this mess would be to stand up to Trump, and make it clear that support among his party members in the Senate and House would disappear if he refused to be reined-in.

There is, IMHO, only one logical explanation for the Republican party’s higher-ups to continue to support Trump. It’s not about protecting him, and it’s not about protecting their party. It's about very powerful people protecting themselves.

It’s the only thing that makes sense. Individuals within the highest ranks of the GOP are guilty of crimes: bribe-taking, funneling money illegally into the party’s coffers and/or their own pockets, colluding with adversarial foreign powers, enabling Putin’s agenda to be carried out by their own “pResident” for individual fun and profit.

It seemed a simple plan at the outset. No one in the GOP knew that Trump would turn out to be a magnet for unwanted attention. No one knew that accusations of Russian interference in the 2016 election wouldn’t fade away after a few news cycles. No one foresaw that Mueller would be appointed, and that his investigation would leave no stone unturned.

So who are the guilty parties? I’d look to old men within the GOP who believe they can outsmart anyone. I’d look to those who inexplicably changed their tune about Trump’s fitness for office, and what they expected in return for doing so.

I’d look to those Republicans who are urging their fellow party members to hold the line – those who are now pretty much threatening the political careers of those who refuse to stick to the party's 'official story' that Trump is innocent of any wrongdoing, and is just a victim of Democratic revenge for having lost in 2016.

I’d look to those Republicans who are disparaging Mueller – and Flynn, and Cohen, and everyone else who decided to save their own skins rather than go down with the Trumptanic – the people who are in a position to let Mueller know exactly where to look, and exactly who to look at.

I’d look to those Republican powers-that-be who hold positions they believe place them above suspicion – those who have already attained political power and are looking at a comfortable retirement funded by money in the bank, the source of that money being overlooked due to the ‘above reproach’ reputations they have spent their careers creating.

Trump is going down, and everyone knows it - including the Republican party. There is now only one reason to protect him from the inevitable, and that’s a last-ditch effort to protect those who put him in the White House - while Mueller determines exactly who was willing to do what in order to put him there.




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What's Going On Here? (Original Post) NanceGreggs Jan 2019 OP
K&R! 2naSalit Jan 2019 #1
Great post malaise Jan 2019 #2
k & r Achilleaze Jan 2019 #3
It takes too long to remove him. Lock him up. Jan 2019 #4
Trump -- accidental opportunist and spoiler Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #5
Well done, Nance! The puzzle pieces are clicking into place, aren't they? ariadne0614 Jan 2019 #6
we rarely punish powerful men. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #7
We've rarely seen powerful men ... NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #8
i sincerely hope you are right and i am wrong. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #16
I tend to side with you on the Mueller investigation. pangaia Jan 2019 #26
Take 'em all down. "Drain the Swamp". nt oasis Jan 2019 #9
GOP donors and the Russians who compromised Trump Quemado Jan 2019 #10
K&R! gademocrat7 Jan 2019 #11
McConnell is at the top of that list. Scarsdale Jan 2019 #12
EXACTLY!!! MyOwnPeace Jan 2019 #18
Been saying that since he refused to make the russian hacking public. BSdetect Jan 2019 #19
Yet another point........ MyOwnPeace Jan 2019 #22
The House should recall Kavanaugh and demand he answer what he agreed with drumph BSdetect Jan 2019 #33
Great post Nance, like always BlueJac Jan 2019 #13
I believe it's about confirming as many federal judges as possible Auggie Jan 2019 #14
They could still do that under Pence. JudyM Jan 2019 #37
K&R... spanone Jan 2019 #15
K & R... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #20
And the GOP didn't expect TrishaJ Jan 2019 #21
+1. dalton99a Jan 2019 #25
McConnell is 100% complicit in the destruction of our government. lark Jan 2019 #23
His enablers are criminal traitors themselves. dalton99a Jan 2019 #24
Excellent post, NanceGreggs. VOX Jan 2019 #27
Well Graham is up for re election in 2020, isn't McConnell too? nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #28
Rec'd. Love your posts but I am going to disagree on one point. They knew. underpants Jan 2019 #29
Completely agree. Good post. c-rational Jan 2019 #30
J'ai peur Mme. Defarge Jan 2019 #31
They embraced the Grover Norquist exhortation, hook, line, and sinker BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #32
The 2 CC's peggysue2 Jan 2019 #34
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jan 2019 #35
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #36

Lock him up.

(6,933 posts)
4. It takes too long to remove him.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:36 AM
Jan 2019

Every single day him and his family is not removed from power gets more dangerous.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,355 posts)
5. Trump -- accidental opportunist and spoiler
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:50 AM
Jan 2019

They were about ready to consolidate power for permanent GOPer rule. Trump the con-man saw an opportunity and played to the tv execs and stole the show. The condemnation faded as the Russian operation revealed he could actually win it. The money flowed and they improvised the rest.

It may turn out that Trump's ignorance and stupidity (he's really a one-trick pony) saved us from a worse fate. If, that is, the blue wave is the beginning of the end of a fascist and plutocratic coup, and not the dying gasp of democracy.

IMO, of course.

May NanceGreggs' last paragraph be prophetic.

ariadne0614

(1,730 posts)
6. Well done, Nance! The puzzle pieces are clicking into place, aren't they?
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 06:51 AM
Jan 2019

We can’t rule out Russian bribery (NRA campaign contributions) and blackmail, either. Didn’t the hackers who went after Hillary and the DNC also get into the RNC? They chose not to release their kompromat on the Republicans, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t using it another way. What is Lindsay so afraid of, for instance?

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
8. We've rarely seen powerful men ...
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 07:07 AM
Jan 2019

... who were willing to commit treason.

And we've rarely seen powerful men like Mueller put in a position to prove it.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
16. i sincerely hope you are right and i am wrong.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 09:00 AM
Jan 2019

i have no faith (almost) in the Mueller investigation. i.e. kushner

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
26. I tend to side with you on the Mueller investigation.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jan 2019

Not that I have no faith in Mueller, but in those who would stop it or bury it.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. McConnell is at the top of that list.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 08:15 AM
Jan 2019

He refused to give Garland a hearing, saying "The next president will fill the SC seat" He KNEW who that would be. He took lots of money from Russia for himself and the gop. Ryan thinks he is escaping by resigning. I hope they drag him back to face charges. They are defending a lunatic who is destroying the country, and they are helping him do so. I wonder what tRump said to Lindsey during that golf outing after which he changed his tune? Blackmail seems very credible with this group.

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
18. EXACTLY!!!
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jan 2019

This whole operation is being directed by McTurtle. The only evidence you need is the refusal to give PRESIDENT Obama his supreme court nomination.
Latest proof: yesterday after the latest "meeting" with IQ45 to "negotiate" the government shut-down, McTurtle was nowhere to explain why he will not even bring the latest bill by the House to the Senate floor for a vote (a bill that the Senate had already passed before).
Obstruction - pure and simple - but perhaps a better word would be TREASON!!

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
22. Yet another point........
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jan 2019

convinced PRESIDENT Obama to not disclose the reports of interference on the part of McTurtle's financing committee (Russia).

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
33. The House should recall Kavanaugh and demand he answer what he agreed with drumph
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jan 2019

in exchange for his place on SCOTUS

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
37. They could still do that under Pence.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jan 2019

Personally, I’m glad pence isn’t at the helm and the ridiculous reign of tRump continues making idiots of his party.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,734 posts)
17. K & R...
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 09:22 AM
Jan 2019

A thorough housecleaning is needed. I’m afraid what the Mueller investigation may present to the public could rock us to our very core.

Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
21. And the GOP didn't expect
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 10:30 AM
Jan 2019

Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from the already in progress Russian hacking investigation when he took office. This is thanks to Al Franken, who cornered Sessions into committing perjury in his confirmation hearings.

lark

(23,105 posts)
23. McConnell is 100% complicit in the destruction of our government.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 11:56 AM
Jan 2019

He took millions in NRA/Russian money then threatened Obama when he found out about drumpfs' potential treason. It had to be hidden because he personally took illegal money from a hostile foreign power and so did the RNC and who knows how many other repugs. I'm hoping he's in jail soon thanks to Mueller.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
27. Excellent post, NanceGreggs.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jan 2019

You always do such a terrific job with your well thought-out posts.

Thank you for keeping the heat turned up and the focus tight on these criminals.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
29. Rec'd. Love your posts but I am going to disagree on one point. They knew.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

They knew he was a magnet AND a flashlight.

Their establishment tried everything to end him from the beginning. Even the once all mighty Fox News tried to put him away at the first debate with Megan Kelly in the lead role. "Unfit" was said publicly and it wasn't just that it was his adversary Hillary saying it, I don't recall that statement ever being openly directly said about anyone else. Implied yes but not openly stated. She wasn't just doing that for the campaign they all knew (from social settings to oppo research by both sides) he was unhinged. The Republicans also feared or knew that he was going to blow their meticulously crafted work to hide their punitive hateful AND racist core. He was going to shine a light on something they've worked tirelessly to keep hidden.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
34. The 2 CC's
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:04 PM
Jan 2019

Compromised and Complicit.

No, the Republicans are not merely covering Trumpski's ass; they're covering their own. There's a reason they've rejected the multiple calls for Mueller's investigation to be legislatively protected. Mueller and his team are a direct threat to the GOP which is why we hear the whining that the whole process is taking far too long, that the legal process is basically a witch hunt and/or that this is 'merely' the Dems' revenge for the 2016 loss (steal).

The entire Republican Party is highly suspect for their lack of outrage. Being 'disturbed' by Trumpski's behavior is a pale comparison to what the outcry would be if President Obama had attempted a tenth of what Trumpski demonstrates on a daily basis. Hillary Clinton? She would have inspired Articles of Impeachment months ago.

The GOP's inaction and silence speaks volumes. They're hoping the gathering storm passes them by.

It won't.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
35. Denial is not just a river in Africa
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

The GOP is deep denial about the damage that trump is doing to the country and the GOP

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