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Now I've never attempted a construction project. Surely nothing of the scope of a Border Wall that would stretch for 1,954 miles along the border of U.S. and Mexico. A wall that would have to traverse a variety of terrain including urban areas, deserts and water. But I worked in industry where business plans, construction plans, marketing plans are all common place and required.
Now Trump claims he's the consummate business man. He is a real estate developer and he has had buildings built all around the world. He should be very attuned to putting together a construction plan as he's had to do that for all of his projects. I don't think he would even consider building a building without a plan.
So the question is - why can't we require a 'construction plan for the border wall' from Trump that details all the pertinent steps from conception through initiation, construction and execution of such a border wall? Such a plan should include factual information that points to the need for such a wall in the first place.
Such a plan should be developed and provided to Congress and the American People - now that Trump is demanding that the monies for the building of such a wall come from the American People and not Mexico like he originally promised.
Such a plan should detail the design goals. [Note: he's not even sure - as he keeps vacillating between a concrete wall and a steel slat fence design].
It should outline every last thing needed for the build - before construction is even initiated. It should provide for cost of materials needed for the build; discuss material purchases (would bids go out for the materials; for the contractors/builders, etc?). It should consider lead times for the materials and detail the delivery of the materials to appropriate areas where construction will be undertaken. It should outline the securing of the land. Today in his impromtu press conference the question of 'eminent domain' came up. Have all individuals that own land necessary for the build of the wall been contacted and is the land secured? It should obtain the proper building permits (if needed) and the have a section detailing the 'environmental impact'. Such a plan should have a detailed budget and a timeline needs to be generated with an estimate of time of completion. I question whether or not such a wall could be built in the time left of Trump's term. Such a plan should also include which agency of the government would be responsible for the care and maintenance of the wall once it is built along with a detailed cost of such maintenance.
I'm sure that there were construction plans generated for the building of the Hoover Dam, the Grand Coulee Dam or the Panama Canal. It would seem to me that such a construction plan is common place - and surely the nature of such an undertaking of a 1,954 mile is of the magnitude and scope of these fore mentioned projects.
If Trump is so intent on having such a wall built - then I think he needs to present to Congress and the American People - such a plan.
This planning process needs also to be considered in the timeline for the building of this border wall as well.
Then and only then - when Trump develops such a plan and it is presented to Congress and the American People for consideration - should such a construction project be initiated - if approval is granted and the monies approved.
This - to me - is only - common sense. Not what's going on now - a crazed man going around the country demanding a wall be built and asking for money - without any thought of a plan in place - without any concrete facts for the need of such a wall.
We the American People should not be held hostage in this shutdown standoff for this wall.
Trump needs to - put up or shut up.
sprinkleeninow
(20,252 posts)global1
(25,253 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 5, 2019, 03:30 AM - Edit history (1)
so why don't the Dems (Chuck and Nancy) tell him - Hey Donald - you provide us with a fully thought out construction plan (like I outlined in my OP) and we'll consider it. Right now Donald - you really don't have a plan. You're not even sure what it should be constructed of. Day to day you seem to change your mind or add more details to its need. So you give us a detailed plan - that you are fully behind and if you think this out right and have all the answers for all of the questions we have to address - we'll consider funding it.
Now Donald - you wouldn't build a Trump building without such a plan - would you?
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)without a need to inquire about square footage, floor plan, termite inspection, and all such trivialities
elleng
(130,974 posts)and likely won't be.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Crazy might be contagious!
sprinkleeninow
(20,252 posts)global1
(25,253 posts)One last thought I just had is why no Senator or House Rep ever asked for such a plan to be presented before they would even give consideration for approval of the monies.
Thinking about it - they are making decisions with our money - the money of the American People. Wouldn't you think that they would be responsible with our monies? Wouldn't you think that before any consideration of providing money for such a wall they would want to know that it would be spent responsibly?
RockRaven
(14,974 posts)b) he is never willing to commit to/follow through with anything.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Or is it that is how much Trump is in debt to his Russian handlers?
I know I am speculating here, but the opportunity lended itself.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,356 posts)He wants a monument to himself, but he also wants money.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)in the $20 to $30 billion range, and even that seems low
littlemissmartypants
(22,695 posts)It's not even about his base. It's about lies, chaos and anarchy. He's deep in his element. Watching people suffer is his super power.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11415987
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)What a mental illness combo and he is the POTUS! We are in danger.
He doesn't even know what he wants for the wall and he NEVER used the money allocated for it from LAST YEAR! It is a distraction from Mueller and he is getting more nervous, stressed and crazy.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)(pardon the spelling and misplaced apostrophe)
Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)That's what Putin wants. He's been working on his plan for more than 15 years.
2naSalit
(86,650 posts)PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Recently, I decided we needed a woodshed for our firewood.
Before I purchased any materials, I made a detailed architectural drawing of the structure from three perspectives, just as I was taught in 8th grade wood shop. This drawing allowed me to calculate the exact amount of wood, fasteners and paint I would need. Accordingly, I was able to make an accurate estimate of the cost of the materials. During the fabrication of the parts, the drawing helped keep the perspective of each side of the structure so the assembly would proceed smoothly and without errors.
In the end, my lean-to woodshed turned out exactly as I drew it. The total cost was $125.00.
Why won't Trump provide the American taxpayer with a similar plan? I cannot imagine building a 2,000 mile, $20bn wall without a plan.