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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you were sworn into Congress, what book would you like to place your hand on?
I was thinking something like 'Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot' or maybe 'The Bible According to Mark Twain'. Also 'The Jefferson Bible' might be a thought provoking angle to take.
How about you?
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)that is what I'd be swearing to protect and defend after all. Of course, I've already taken that oath before.
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)My sense of obligation to protect the Constitution and the principles which serve as its foundation was no less than it would have been had I placed my hand on any book or document -- or another man's testicles, as stated in the Bible.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)But if I were to use any document to "swear on or by" it wouldn't be a religious text.
Frankly, that oath I took in 1970 still rings pretty true to me, and I feel like we are in 'revolutionary' times right now, as RW authoritarian forces are attempting a coup of sorts. I consider it my job to resist them.
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)klook
(12,157 posts)... kidding. I agree with using the Constitution.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)And my serious choice is also the constitution.
TygrBright
(20,762 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,011 posts)Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,011 posts)I'm no longer the former, but I did learn something from it, and I am sentimental!
marybourg
(12,633 posts)when I took the oath; just raised my right hand.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)The books are for show (and photos) after the fact.
David__77
(23,421 posts)...
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Just to watch their heads explode!
RandySF
(58,911 posts)Other than that, I don't give shit what book Kyrsten Sinema brought, and the press should stop wasting our time.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)Many of us are fine with a bible, even though we aren't bible thumpers, because of the historic and cultural significance of that book. For those who prefer a different book, OK fine. There's no reason to point a finger at anyone. I would have preferred that Congresswoman Sinema had not mentioned her choice and kept it to herself. But that's just me.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)For example, McSally let it be known she borrowed a dead sailors Bible from the USS Arizona.
Grown2Hate
(2,013 posts)JonAndKatePlusABird
(312 posts)"Hitchhikers Guide" is what immediately came to mind when I read the thread title
True Dough
(17,306 posts)And I'd vow to do all in my power to help take him down.
Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)I'd use whatever bible they had on hand.
I do NOT object to any other book anyone else might choose to use.
hunter
(38,317 posts)https://slate.com/culture/2012/06/philip-k-dick-robot-an-android-head-of-the-science-fiction-author-is-lost-forever.html
Although it seems unlikely I'll ever be sworn into Congress.
RockRaven
(14,974 posts)Just about anything, honestly, just to make the point. Heck, a dime store novel would be better than a Bible.
bottomofthehill
(8,334 posts)Jeffersons Manual, Which sets the rules of the House and Senate and the US Constitution.
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)I would swear the oath on the Constitution but I would bring this book along:
Knowing that you love the earth changes you, activates you to defend and protect and celebrate. But when you feel that the earth loves you in return, that feeling transforms the relationship from a one-way street into a sacred bond.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,749 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)hardluck
(639 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)moondust
(19,993 posts)dalton99a
(81,516 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)If for no other reason than to watch Mike Pences reaction.
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Anon-C
(3,430 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...quoting Stan Lee, in and of itself, would make anyone my favorite pol. Using the "responsibility" line just makes it perfect. Who needs the Bible or the Constitution, when you have The Man himself?
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)What difference does a book make? If I am willing to lie or be corrupt in the absence of an oath or pledge then what makes someone think that I'm all of a sudden going to be righteous because I put my hand on a book and uttered some words?
This is why I don't find it especially impressive or moving when someone does their oath reenactment with some special book - Jefferson's Quran, Washington's Bible, etc.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)If someone is a pathological liar, like Trump, swearing upon a bible - or any book - isn't going to suddenly make a truthful person out of them. They will still lie, as we have seen very clearly.
Takket
(21,578 posts)musicblind
(4,484 posts)The one I would most like to use began falling apart at the spine years ago, so I'm not sure which one.
area51
(11,911 posts)TlalocW
(15,384 posts)By Berke Breathed.
I like to stick with the classics.
TlalocW
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)They were my creators. They are where my values came from. It is their memory I strive to live up to.
lilactime
(657 posts)pecosbob
(7,541 posts)One of my heroes...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn
Perhaps with a picture of my high school history teacher who used parts of it as a text. And the xeroxed copies of the constitution and other original documents he taught from.
akraven
(1,975 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Damn right
canetoad
(17,169 posts)Because I'm a big fat iconoclast.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Vinca
(50,278 posts)I sure wish George was with us to comment on the current nightmare.
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)Its like the tech bible.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Aka Jesus without the Miracles
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Actually, a bound copy of the Constitution, but I would want it to be P & P!
DFW
(54,408 posts)A great reminder to all that power without responsibility leads to disaster, and put in terms that even Republicans can understand.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Picture of my grandchildren. To stay focused on the goal.
Or maybe Where's Waldo?
TrishaJ
(798 posts)Perhaps hand over the heart?
Butterflylady
(3,544 posts)Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)destroying evil forces that cause one to be mesmerized by power and material things. Of course it was also religious based but still kind of a nice fun message.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)For me, it's the container of the English/American language as I understand and use it today.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Also, I would affirm, not swear, just as I did when enlisting in the Air Force.
romana
(765 posts)maveric
(16,445 posts)Catcher in the Rye
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)It would be One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)You know, but the One Fish Two Fish book has some good points.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Not a perfect document, but it is far more perfect than any other alternative that comes to mind. Another choice for me would be Steinbeck' "The Pearl", reading that book and thinking about it'd message shaped my life, I learned that some things that seem valuable truly are not, while other things that we often take for granted truly are valuable.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)Trump put his hand on a Bible on 1-20-17. If there was a god, he would have had third-degree burns on his left hand.
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)Look it up.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)"Prolapse" on the dial...
Efilroft Sul
(3,579 posts)Can't answer this question or explain my politics any better.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)SKKY
(11,812 posts)...but I have zero issues with someone swearing on the Book of Mormon, The Quran, or whichever text is pertinent to their faith. If someone is an atheist, then I think the constitution is an excellent replacement.
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)I say to you, Do not take an oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King (vv. 3435).
- Matthew 5:3337
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)(the part the public gets to see) you can swear on book.
Krysten Sinema picked out a law book for instance.
Ghost of Tom Joad
(1,355 posts)or The Power of Myth both by Joseph Campbell.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)Jarqui
(10,126 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Beyond Religion: Ethics for a Wholw World
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)surprised some are allowed to swear on anything less than.
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Hail Eris!
jpak
(41,758 posts)No
Just kidding...
lame54
(35,294 posts)A Hustler stacked on top of a Penthouse
Raine
(30,540 posts)I'm not especially religious but it's a book with lots of wisdom in it..
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Just to give the tinfoil hat brigade something to talk about
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)And the Oath of Office should be read as Vogon Poetry.
Whatever the size of the inaugural crowd, by the time the oath is read, there will be maybe three people still standing. The rest will have fallen asleep or wandered off in search of pancakes.