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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNancy Pelosi pushes back hard on question of censuring freshman Rep. Rashida Tlaib for language
...Joy Reid, at a Town Hall with Nancy Pelosi, asked the Speaker for her reaction to Rep. Rashida Tlaib's statement that "we're gonna go in there and impeach the motherfucker."
Pelosi responded that she'd, "probably have a generational reaction to it," but she's "not in the censorship business."
"I don't think it's worse than what the president has said."
"I don't think it consolidates his base, I don't think it makes much difference."
"I don't think we should make a big deal of it... I really don't, I really don't."
"Words weigh a ton, and the president has to realize his words weigh a ton, too, and some of the words he's used have a direct impact on people's lives. My colleague's comments do not have an impact on people's lives."
"If she were a man would they be making a fuss like this?"
"I don't know why we're making so much of a big deal of it now... I think frankly what she said was less offensive than what Trump said about John McCain."
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)area51
(11,911 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)So did Tlaib.
I dont necessarily approve of her language, but she was at a private party.
I do approve of the fact she didnt apologize for it. Good for her.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)She is a public figure.
Pelosi made a great point by asking this question, "If she were a man would they be making a fuss like this?"
I'm not sure. I don't think the wingnuts would ever allow an opportunity to be outraged to pass them by, but maybe they would if it was a man.
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)I freaked out about it. I feel better now.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)She just doesn't think it's that big of a deal.
But I'm pretty sure she wasn't too happy about having to answer questions about a freshman Member's comments on the second day of her speakership. And I have a feeling that, while she publicly defended her and would never throw her under the bus, Madame Speaker's displeasure was privately conveyed to Rep. Tlaib.
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)Nancy is a true leader. She is the rock the Dems need right now. Very wise and armored up.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Charlotte Little
(658 posts)I listened to Madame Speaker and I got the distinct impression that she wasn't happy with it all while thinking it was a distraction (which it is, but let's not hand the lunatics on the right any ammunition!). I can't imagine she didn't instruct Tlaib on the importance of nuance and public optics going forward. It was a rookie error that will be forgotten in a few days (I hope anyway, as I'm sick of hearing about it).
Now, AOC, on the other hand - what a terrible way to start with that dancing business!
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Sheesh!
elleng
(130,974 posts)David__77
(23,423 posts)madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)republicans and their phony outrage.
It would have been better if this wasnt caught on tape but it really isnt a big deal. This is a one day story.
elmac
(4,642 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)he even said ...... motherf&cker
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In the 2005 recording obtained by NBC News from Access Hollywood, Trump, then newly married to Melania Trump, spots a young woman through a bus window while in conversation with Billy Bush, at the time an anchor for Access Hollywood, and others.
"Whoa, whoa," he said to Bush about the womans appearance. I gotta use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her."
[Newly-Surfaced Trump Audio: 'I Did Try to (Expletive) Her, She Was Married']
Newly-Surfaced Trump Audio: 'I Did Try to (Expletive) Her, She Was Married' 2:32
Earlier in the conversation, Trump recalls talking about trying to woo a married woman. "I moved on her actually, she was down in Palm Beach and I failed. Ill admit it. I did try to fuck her, she was married ... and I moved on her very heavily," Trump is heard saying.
"I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture and I told her 'I'll show you where you can get some nice furniture,' Trump is heard saying. I moved on her like a bitch, and I could not get there, and she was married. And all the sudden I see her and shes got the big phony tits, shes totally changed her look. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-hot-mic-when-you-re-star-you-can-do-n662116
Im automatically attracted to beautiful women I just start kissing them, its like a magnet. Just kiss. I dont even wait. And when youre a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," he said in the 2005 conversation. "Grab 'em by the pussy."
Ten years later, as a candidate and now the Republican nominee, Trump has come under fire for insulting and directing crude language toward women. Hes rejected such criticism repeatedly, insisting nobody has more respect for women than me."
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)hostalover
(447 posts)Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Roadside Attraction
(238 posts). . . is male locker room talk, then, "Impeach the motherfucker" is lady locker room talk.
And, I'd say impeaching the motherfucker is a good plan. Let's get rolling.
volstork
(5,402 posts)cool-headed response. I would expect nothing less from our Madam Speaker.
calimary
(81,322 posts)djacq
(1,634 posts)dalton99a
(81,516 posts)Response to bigtree (Original post)
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bigtree
(85,998 posts)...you'd think this was the first freshman class of reps in history, reading all of the finger-wagging and scolding.
Rep. Pelosi: "I don't think we should make a big deal of it... I really don't, I really don't."
John Fante
(3,479 posts)the Republicans who booed her two days ago. Some people think "we go high, they win elections" is still an effective strategy, apparently.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)..is the way they talk about helping or hurting the party, seemingly oblivious of the pile-on effect of their own navel-gazing scolding.
Anyone spending time attacking our Democrats, spending time scolding folks for expressing opposition to Trump, for instance, is doing party politics wrong.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)They ain't children (even if they want to act like it in public).
When they do something worthy of laughter; derision, we SHOULD call them out on it .
They wanna get all tight-assed about some fun in college and some off-color, non-bigoted language (unless you're a person who actually SUPPORTS ACTUAL MOTHER FUCKING--then I suppose you might have an argument to make and be heard lol) , we need to CALL THEM ON IT.
A college kid dancing? Really guys? And don't you think for one IOTA of time that we will allow you to get away with any kind of false equivalency bullshit or comparison to Kavanaughs time in the Frat...cause they're not the same.
Rape is NOT an expression of ones First Amendent Right to Free Expression.
So get ready, Deplorables. Mueller is comming, and Nancy's Majority is coming with him, you dumb fuckers.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)albacore
(2,399 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)And if you're a for-real Democrat, get the hell off Rep. Tlaib's back and direct your outrage at more deserving targets---there are plenty of them available at the moment.
no_hypocrisy
(46,130 posts)Once married to the Chief Justice if the DC Circuit Court. She told me "When I was a student at Oberlin (you do the math), girls didn't smoke, drink, or cuss . . . Guess I made up for the rest of them!". I loved her daring pre-Alice Roosevelt.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)If you are not a white, male, and conservative, you can't use foul language, you can't dance without being mocked, you can't put your feet on the desk, you can't wear a tan suit, you can't play golf or take a vacation... The right's (and their media lap dogs') hypocrisy has no limits.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Holy Gods I forgot how good she is at flipping the narrative back at them ..and we're not even through rhe first WEEKEND YET.
at this rate Nancy will have the votes for a Senate conviction by Valentine's Day lol!
I'm not in the censorship business-- bwahahaa FUCKING PERFECT.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)We still have to be niiiiiice to people, no matter how horribly the potus talks about abusing us.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,356 posts)In a post by muriel_volestrangler,
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11627953
there is the following tweet:
Renato Mariotti
✔
@renato_mariotti
Today Trump claimed he will seize large swaths of land from private citizens at gunpoint and declare a state of emergency to build a wall without Congressional approval.
In the face of tyranny, Republicans are outraged ... by a freshman Member of Congress using profanity.