The unsettling list of Trump's made-up conversations keeps growing

[babylonsister]

Posted with permission.

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The unsettling list of Trump’s made-up conversations keeps growing
01/04/19 04:11 PM—Updated 01/04/19 04:24 PM
By Steve Benen


At his White House cabinet meeting this week, Donald Trump went into quite a bit of detail while describing a conversation with the head of a “very rich” foreign country. As the American president described his discussion, the foreign leader – a “very great gentleman” – has been charging the United States when we fly planes over his country, even though the United States is preventing that country from being “overrun” by terrorists.

According to the story, Trump has convinced his unnamed foreign counterpart to stop doing this, which will mean a savings of “millions and millions of dollars” to American taxpayers.

It all sounded quite nice, although the conversation almost certainly didn’t happen in reality. The Washington Post tried to find a country that met Trump’s description. No such country exists.

Today, the Republican told reporters about conversations he’s had with his American predecessors. Referring to construction of a border wall, Trump said:

“This should have been done by all of the presidents that preceded me and they all know it.

“Some of them have told me that we should have done it.”

During Trump’s time in office, he’s only had five living predecessors: Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama. (H.W. Bush, of course, passed late last year.)

None of them made any effort to build a giant border wall, and none of them have publicly endorsed Trump’s crusade. In fact, none of them even voted for this guy. We’re nevertheless supposed to believe that “some” of these five men – not just one of them – have privately told Trump that the United States should’ve built a giant border wall.

I’m comfortable concluding that he made this up, not only because common sense still exists, but because Trump keeps describing conversations that occurred only in his mind.

In June, for example, he described a chat with “Tonight Show” host Jimmy Fallon that Trump made up. In August the president described a phone conversation with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto that, in reality, never occurred. Before that, Trump was excited about a phone call he’d received from the head of the Boy Scouts, which also hadn’t happened.

In July, he offered details of a phone conversation with the head of a large nation, with over 300 million people, who complained to the American president about the foreign country’s 9% GDP growth rate. There is no such country. Though Trump talked about the phone call more than once, he made it up.

Around the same time, he went into quite a bit of detail about the behind-the-scenes discussions he participated in over border-wall construction in California, despite the fact that those conversations apparently weren’t real.

And none of this includes the highly dubious conversations he’s had with his many anonymous validators.

I don’t know what it says about Trump that he keeps describing imaginary conversations, but it’s quite unsettling.

[winetourdriver01]

1. Unsettling?

Damn straight it is. We have a chief executive who is demonstrably out of his fucking mind. Can you say: " A clear and present danger?"

[RockRaven]

2. It SHOULD be justification for impeachment and removal, but won't with this GOP.

He is purposely misrepresenting interactions with foreign heads of state, or he is delusional, and both of those are national security threats.

Being yourself a national security threat to the United States of America is, in my estimation, a "high crime" or "misdemeanor."

After all, we are constantly being told that impeachment is a political matter, not a criminal law matter, and those terms in the Constitution mean whatever Congress decides they mean.

[Liberty Belle]

18. It should be justification for the 25th amendment to be invoked

and if Trump in one of his delusional moments decides to order a nuclear strike the blood will be on the hands of every GOP enabler in Congress and the cabinet.

[oberliner]

3. George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 into law

Maybe that's what he's talking about.

[Solly Mack]

4. Part of his lying and the man tells elaborate lies.

It's a sickness.

Trumpian fish tales of the biggest fish ever caught in the history of fishing, with the most expensive rod ever made while he was riding out the most turbulent waters ever seen by man on the largest boat ever made that he won in a poker game because no one can beat him at cards.

He has been doing it his whole life, I'd wager. Bet he told whoppers in school to try and impress people.

Trump is a sad, pathetic, boring liar. An insecure puffed up popinjay who thinks as long as he keeps lying no one will see what a great big nothing he is - like everything else, he's wrong about that too.

[babylonsister]

5. +100 for

using the word 'popinjay'!

[Solly Mack]

10. Could be the voices in his head, his hair talking to him, or he talks to the portraits

of dead presidents - and they talk back.

But I think he's pathological liar.

[KT2000]

6. Nixon only talked to paintings

and that was weird enough, but making up whole conversations means he is ready to crack.

[Cha]

7. Out and Out filthy MF LIES.

[BSdetect]

8. Its dementia. A voice told me.

[akraven]

9. Brigadoon, anyone?

DO SOMETHING GOP!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

11. someone needs to hire some staff

Pay some of the staff to randomly stop in the hall, while Trump is near, and carry on a short conversation with nothing.

[Stuart G]

12. k and r no text

[Scurrilous]

13. K&R

[DoctorJoJo]

14. And Yet, Repukes Are So Proud!!

[Haggis for Breakfast]

15. I'd like to know WHO in the federal workforce

is telling him that they are HAPPY to be out of a paycheck. Not one federal employee is telling him this. NOT ONE. More trmp BS.

[herding cats]

16. I was in a toxic relationship with a narcissist once.

I realized I'd broken free when I told him he bored me.

All the lying, bravado, veiled threats and insults directed at me and everyone's else just became a pitiful bit of bad theatre to me. I simply told him, "you bore me anymore." No drama, no raised voice. He lost his shit like I'd never seen before. Suddenly I wasn't reacting to his ploys, or dancing to his fiddle. I just felt bored with his act and didn't react. The power shifted and I won and finally broke free.

Trump really reminds me of my ex, and for some reason reading this made me think of all that mess and I decided to share.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

17. Imaginary events too

Remember the Muslims he said were out in the street celebrating following 9/11. Never happened, but he seemed to recall it clearly.

I think the answer is dementia.

[JDC]

19. I think his staff calls in and poses as the leaders.

it's how they plant ideas in his head and make him think he is involved.

[area51]

20. Scary times.

Imaginary conversations caused by dementia? My late mother would carry on conversations at night with someone who only she could see.

[Demovictory9]

21. he's lied his whole life.