so, liz cheney refers to herself as "congressman"-- really, lizzie?

[niyad]

[FreepFryer]

1. Is this post attacking Cheney for using that term despite the fact that she's female?

'Cause if so, that's sexist AF.

[hlthe2b]

4. ?? Because a DUer asking the question must have an ulterior motive, but Cheney's motives are pure?

Umm, ok.

[FreepFryer]

7. Logical fallacy - not defending the abhorrent cheney by pointing out that women are Congressmen too.

[hlthe2b]

10. No, women are NOT CongressMEN; Women are not MEN! Perhaps you skipped that class

in genetic/biologic differentiation, but to insist a female Congressperson be called a CongressMAN IS Sexist.

They are ALL Congressional Representatives. They are NOT ALL CongressMEN.

[FreepFryer]

11. A woman can refer to herself as a Congressman. She's calling HERSELF one. If she calls others that,

that's sexist AF.

Or did you miss that class?

[hlthe2b]

12. YOUR insisting a female Congressional REP must be called a CongressMAN IS SEXIST (as hell)

She can call herself whatever she damned pleases, but YOU can not insist on calling all women Congressional REPS CongressMEN. Ugly misogyny.

[FreepFryer]

13. I'm not insisting that at all. She calls herself what she wants. Not complicated. (n/t)

[hlthe2b]

14. YOU accused another DUer of being sexist for NOT calling her a CongressMAN.

SO, it is YOU who is out of line.

[FreepFryer]

15. That's not what i said at all in NO SHAPE NOR FORM - which post # are you misreading? (n/t)

[hlthe2b]

18. Oh, really: "Is this post attacking Cheney for using that term despite the fact that she's female?

'Cause if so, that's sexist AF."


YOUR first post, #1 Verbatum

[FreepFryer]

21. I didn't say what you said I did there, at all. So what's your point?

[hlthe2b]

22. I quoted you VERBATUM... Keep it up. Everyone can see for themselves.

[FreepFryer]

23. Again, any person elected to Congress can call themselves a 'Congressman' or 'Congresswoman' ...

...without justifying sexist attacks like the OP.

As everyone can see, that's what I have argued here from the start.

(ps fyi, it's 'verbatim')

[hlthe2b]

24. YOU don't get to accuse other DUers of being sexist for NOT referring to her as a CONGRESSMAN.

[FreepFryer]

25. I did no such thing, and wouldn't - but thanks for the bonus admonition. (n/t)

[tymorial]

30. Exactly correct.

[Demsrule86]

16. She should call herself congress-slime...it suits her better.

[FreepFryer]

20. Actually having her out of government and atoning for her family's evil would be even better!

[tymorial]

33. Now see that I can agree with. Genderless yet accurate

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. Well THAT'S certainly true!!

[LanternWaste]

5. Can you specifically point to this alleged sexism?

Or simply rationalize something that just ain't there?

AF, indeed...

[FreepFryer]

8. Women can refer to themselves as Congressmen too, can't they? So then why the 'really lizzie?' (n/t)

[tymorial]

31. Because she's not a progressive woman

If she was then this would be celebrated. I love the intellectual dishonesty of this debate truly I do

[SCantiGOP]

6. Just curious

Why would that be sexist?

[FreepFryer]

9. She's an elected member of Congress,women can refer to themselves as Congressmen too, can't they?

and if so, why the snarky "really lizzie"? And the OP's assent to the next comment, "She's the son her father never had!!! "

Sexist post, no matter your stripe.

[atreides1]

2. Why not

She's the son her father never had!!!

She's also an idiot, the GOP men put her in her position, not because of merit, but because of her name!!!

The figureheads on old sailing ships have more use then Ms. Cheney, will ever have!!!

[niyad]

3. so true.

[lunatica]

17. She's a little minnie me of her asshole father

Just a Dick Cheney minion and mouthpiece.

[ismnotwasm]

19. If she is not Trans

She is being an typical Republican asshole.

[beachbum bob]

26. she thru her lesbian sister under the bus when she first ran for congress so she has hard time

identifying with the human race

[niyad]

27. you are quite correct about that.

[tymorial]

28. On DU of all places.

[dameatball]

29. Seems like much ado about not much. Adieu.

There seems (to me) that there is a lot of bickering on DU lately about things that are relatively minor. Personally, I don't care how Liz refers to herself, nor do I get particularly offended that people do not sufficiently clarify their OP's by my version of how they should be written. But there does seem to be people that take offense quickly. It seems like almost every day someone is letting things get to them. That's fine. Let's just remember we are on the same side and we have a hell of a long way to go and don't need to bicker about the small stuff.
Since November we have seen some light at the end of the tunnel. Today was a great day.

[tymorial]

32. I am all in on attacking Liz Cheney for her politics

The arguments and insults here are practically dripping with hypocrisy and outright misogyny. I am trashing this thread now because I am quite disappointed with many of you