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Vinca

(50,278 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 06:33 PM Jan 2019

Nancy's plan.

I'm confused about something (surprise, surprise). Nancy is going to get bills that have already passed in the Senate passed in the House tomorrow. But Mitch, apparently, won't bring them up because the Orange Fuhrer won't sign them. I thought if a bill passed the Senate and then passed the House, it went to the President and didn't stop along the way for Mitch's rubber stamp. The House should at least have a chance to override a veto. Do the passed bills from the last Congress become null and void when the new Congress is sworn in? That's the part I'm confused about.

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Nancy's plan. (Original Post) Vinca Jan 2019 OP
My understanding is that any pending legislation dies upon the end of each Congressional session. pecosbob Jan 2019 #1
Yes. Has to be in the same Congress manor321 Jan 2019 #3
Thanks. I knew I could count on people here to know. Vinca Jan 2019 #4
It's a new Congress starting tomorrow. Bleacher Creature Jan 2019 #2
Thanks. So we're back to Mitch putting country over party. We're screwed. Vinca Jan 2019 #5
Yep. Bleacher Creature Jan 2019 #7
That depends on what he thinks the calculation is... Volaris Jan 2019 #14
The Senate will be asked to pass again what it passed last year gratuitous Jan 2019 #6
This is the key for the Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #8
If McConnell doesn't bring the bill back for a re-vote gratuitous Jan 2019 #9
That seems to be the PR move Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #11
Glad to hear that! (5 day or more work week) northoftheborder Jan 2019 #13
Where is the five day week coming from? former9thward Jan 2019 #17
Wow,could not find the schedule Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #18
But if he digs in and doesnt care about the "two face hypocrisy".. honest.abe Jan 2019 #12
No not really, but at that point we CAN smash the PR hammer into Volaris Jan 2019 #15
I don't know if the Democrats can force the action in the Senate gratuitous Jan 2019 #16
Thanks for the explanation. honest.abe Jan 2019 #20
These are bill negotiated with the majority Rs and passed by them DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #10
Mitch won't be negotiating with Democrats Mr. Ected Jan 2019 #19

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
1. My understanding is that any pending legislation dies upon the end of each Congressional session.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 06:35 PM
Jan 2019

It has to be resubmitted I believe.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
3. Yes. Has to be in the same Congress
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jan 2019

Otherwise the Senate could pass a bill from the House 70 years ago.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
2. It's a new Congress starting tomorrow.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 06:35 PM
Jan 2019

Bills that the Senate passed in the Congress that ends today expire and would need to be passed again by the Senate to go to the President.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
7. Yep.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 06:44 PM
Jan 2019

You can pretty much tie just about any problem we're having as a country today to Mitch McConnell. And I'm not joking.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
14. That depends on what he thinks the calculation is...
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:14 PM
Jan 2019

Yertle is NOT gonna do anything to let Trump jepordize his position or power if he can help it.
If the new house passes the same exact bill that the last Senate voted on 100-zero, it will be interesting to see what McConnell does with it. If he knows it's gonna be the same vote count, my guess would be he let's it pass and Trump can veto (and in so doing, take ALL the blame and go fuck himself).

PELOSI is smart enough to start with that, because she KNOWS what McConnells action will be. If McConnell were to block it in the Senate, he puts himself in bed with Trump and that isn't gonna look good when the doj subponeas start arriving at his office.

Yertle will fuck Trump six ways from Sunday if it means saving his own ass, you mark my words. He's a reptile, but not a stupid one.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. The Senate will be asked to pass again what it passed last year
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 06:40 PM
Jan 2019

At that point, McConnell will have to concede that the bills the Senate passed last year was all just a charade to make it look like the Senate was doing something. Threatened with the possibility that his empty gestures might get translated into legislative action. look for McConnell to turtle, and make up some bullshit excuse why the bill that Senate passed last year isn't good enough for this year.

We'll see if the media want to believe McConnell's self-serving bullshit or their own eyes.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. This is the key for the
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:06 PM
Jan 2019

resubmit. And to get each and every Senator on Recorded Vote,as well as every Rethug Congressman on record.

Slimy Mitch will play hard to get and drag his feet,but,he will have to offer up this Bill.

Still going to be one hell of a long time before Things open up.

Donnie of Stupid has to play his game because he could care less about the people being affected. BTW,there all Democrate's according to him.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. If McConnell doesn't bring the bill back for a re-vote
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:12 PM
Jan 2019

Democrats should hammer on him and the Senate for refusing to govern. Let McConnell explain why the Senate won't vote this year on a bill they passed last year. Make him own his two-faced hypocrisy.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. That seems to be the PR move
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:21 PM
Jan 2019

by every Dem Strategist in DC. All about the timing. Remember tomorrow is Thursday and there is a ton of Swearing In's as well as votes to be taken for Leadership positions. And we know Slimy Mitch likes to delay things till late Friday until News Dump Time.

Here is a little tid bit,wait for the new House Schedule,should be a thing of beauty. Understand it will be five days a week or more until all House Legislation is completed. No more three days a week.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
13. Glad to hear that! (5 day or more work week)
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:59 PM
Jan 2019

Finally, a group of smart people who accomplish things!!!! Has been a long time!

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
17. Where is the five day week coming from?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:31 PM
Jan 2019

Schedule for Jan and first week of Feb is one 2 day week, one 3 day week and 3 four day weeks. In the middle is a week off.

https://www.democraticwhip.gov/calendar/2019

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
12. But if he digs in and doesnt care about the "two face hypocrisy"..
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:26 PM
Jan 2019

is there anything we can do to force a vote?

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
15. No not really, but at that point we CAN smash the PR hammer into
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:22 PM
Jan 2019

His stupid little turtle shell until he cracks and puts it on the Apricot Hellbeast.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. I don't know if the Democrats can force the action in the Senate
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jan 2019

There might be something on the level of a discharge petition that the minority can use, but I don't know. McConnell has certainly been intransigent before (Merrick Garland comes to mind), but Republicans got a pretty good beating two months ago. He may be having second thoughts about gumming up the legislative works. The Senate map for 2020 is VERY stacked against the Republicans, and if they want a repeat of 2018, when they underperformed very badly in managing to gain only two seats in the Senate, McConnell can keep doing what he's doing. He can also look forward to vacating that nice office the Senate gives to the Majority Leader.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
10. These are bill negotiated with the majority Rs and passed by them
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:17 PM
Jan 2019

making them Republican bills. If McConnell can't get to yes on his own bills, one of which he himself submitted, they 100% own and are the face of the shutdown.

But what will happen is McConnell will cut a deal with Pelosi/Shumer, pass a bill with more than 67 votes (veto proof), the House will likely agree with more than 290 votes (veto proof) and Trump will sign it or let it become law without his signature.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. Mitch won't be negotiating with Democrats
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:50 PM
Jan 2019

He's getting his marching orders from the same source as the President.

The Kremlin.

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