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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:34 AM Jan 2019

Dying Harry Reid on Trump: He's Amoral, Has No Conscience

WHAT?


https://www.thedailybeast.com/dying-harry-reid-on-trump-hes-amoral-has-no-conscience?ref=home

Dying Harry Reid on Trump: He’s Amoral, Has No Conscience

Harry Reid, the former Senate Majority Leader who is suffering from pancreatic cancer, has given a rare interview in which he compares a “weird” President Trump unfavorably to mafia bosses who “are really good with what they do.” He told The New York Times: “Trump is an interesting person. He is not immoral but is amoral. Amoral is when you shoot someone in the head, it doesn’t make a difference. No conscience.” When the writer Mark Leibovich suggested there was a hint of grudging respect in Reid’s words, he added: “I think he is without question the worst president we’ve ever had… We’ve had some bad ones, and there’s not even a close second to him.” Reid refused to say whether he backed his successor Chuck Schumer’s tactics in dealing with Trump. “I do not call Schumer,” he said. “I call him once in a while—not weekly… I talk to Nancy often. I love Nancy Pelosi.” The Times piece states, bluntly, that Reid “does not have long to live.”
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Dying Harry Reid on Trump: He's Amoral, Has No Conscience (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2019 OP
I am really sad to read this. Harry Reid is dying. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2019 #1
Yeah, this is first time I heard this too. Sad news Zing Zing Zingbah Jan 2019 #37
Me too. DownriverDem Jan 2019 #47
Harry..my man... Maxheader Jan 2019 #2
Downgrading the Filibuster pintobean Jan 2019 #11
Like the Republicans wouldn't have done it anyway when they got control? Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #24
Exactly! Marie Marie Jan 2019 #48
Reed had to do that to get legistlation passed. Blue_true Jan 2019 #36
If only he had done it sooner huh. Grant him courage serenity focused on present moment onit2day Jan 2019 #46
That took my dad, it's a fast one n/t hibbing Jan 2019 #3
Took my uncle. babylonsister Jan 2019 #6
Took my mom too. ooky Jan 2019 #23
My mom too GrapesOfWrath Jan 2019 #42
My brother Liberal In Texas Jan 2019 #30
But, keeping fingers crossed, RBG is holding on (nt) question everything Jan 2019 #40
Very sorry to hear this. Harry Reid served our country well. calimary Jan 2019 #4
Stay strong Harry ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #5
First I've read about Harry Reid's . . . peggysue2 Jan 2019 #7
He had surgery in May which I don't remember reading about... babylonsister Jan 2019 #8
I missed it, too, babylonsister peggysue2 Jan 2019 #22
He has lasted long for pancreatic cancer malaise Jan 2019 #26
:( samnsara Jan 2019 #9
So, so sorry. What horrible news. Judi Lynn Jan 2019 #10
I must have missed this diagnosis. nycbos Jan 2019 #12
Will there be a long good-bye for him as there was for John McCain? Fla Dem Jan 2019 #13
I would hope so! pazzyanne Jan 2019 #20
Harry Reid liberal from boston Jan 2019 #29
I hope so -- we need reminders in these dark times that is greatness still in public service. Hekate Jan 2019 #57
I struggled with that question about Trump. rusty quoin Jan 2019 #14
I am sorry to hear this mcar Jan 2019 #15
Reid's words about Trump remind me of "The emperor has no clothes." Towlie Jan 2019 #16
Thanks for everything Senator! Soxfan58 Jan 2019 #17
Losing a GREAT man here bluestarone Jan 2019 #18
I believe that Nancy Pelosi loves Harry Reid...................... turbinetree Jan 2019 #19
Devastating news about Harry Reid. He's a great man who's done so much for this country. Unlike highplainsdem Jan 2019 #21
Why couldn't it be Trump instead of Harry? ooky Jan 2019 #25
A greqt man, a great Leader Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #27
Very sad news. gademocrat7 Jan 2019 #28
That made me so sad PatSeg Jan 2019 #31
So sad to hear that he's dying. BlueStater Jan 2019 #32
Life is so unfair sometimes. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #58
Oh dear! 2naSalit Jan 2019 #33
Sad news.... but.... the_sly_pig Jan 2019 #34
My favorite Mormon. dalton99a Jan 2019 #35
OMG I had no idea he had pancreatic cancer. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #38
Thank you, Harry, for being a beautiful human being and great patriot.nt oasis Jan 2019 #39
I am so sorry to hear that HArry is dying --and of pancreatic cancer. I have a friend who is niyad Jan 2019 #41
Poor Harry. Damn pancreatic cancer is so hard to beat. Vinca Jan 2019 #43
I'm sorry to hear this. cate94 Jan 2019 #44
I am so sorry to hear this. Lifelong Protester Jan 2019 #45
That is the definition of a sociopath and trump IS a huge one BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #49
Oh, no. I hate to hear this. Pancreatic cancer. That's a bad one. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #50
79 is young for a US Congress person uponit7771 Jan 2019 #51
Sorry to hear this. I had no idea. n/t Different Drummer Jan 2019 #52
Sorry to hear Raine Jan 2019 #53
I didn't know he was sick. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #54
We have such good, upstanding people on our side of the aisle. Makes me proud. YOHABLO Jan 2019 #55
I am so sorry to hear this. Harry Reid served us all well in the Senate, imo -- Hekate Jan 2019 #56
I didn't know he was fighting cancer. 😞 BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2019 #59
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #60

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
2. Harry..my man...
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:25 AM
Jan 2019


1. Health Care

The Affordable Care Act may be better known as Obamacare, but the law could just as easily have received a Harry Reid nickname as well. The senator made passing the health care bill a top priority and negotiated with politicians on both sides of the aisle to ensure it would have enough votes to pass. According to political analysts, it’s no exaggeration to say that the legislation was unlikely to pass without Reid’s efforts.

2. Downgrading the Filibuster

With partisanship running strong in the Senate, Reid grew tired of the incessant filibustering that blocked the legislative body from accomplishing even the most routine of tasks. In order to minimize future obstructions, Reid helmed a controversial decision to change the way presidential appointments and judicial nominees are approved. Now, rather than needing a hard-to-obtain 60 votes to get approved, a simple majority is all it takes.

3. Reproductive Issues… in a Roundabout Way

While most Democrats support a woman’s right to choose, Reid actually considers himself “pro-life.” Unlike most politicians who oppose abortion, however, he’s not anti-woman’s reproductive health altogether. It’s crazy when the same people who gripe about abortions also vote to block birth control, sex education and other ideas that would help women avoid having unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

In 2006, Reid teamed with (then) Senator Hillary Clinton to launch the Prevention First Amendment. The law acknowledged that people on both sides of the abortion debate have deeply held convictions, and called on the government to put forward more money to expand access to family planning programs and emergency contraception

He may not be pro-choice, but at least Reid is a man who understands that decreasing abortion means starting to eliminate the reasons women have abortions. His 92 percent approval rating from Planned Parenthood proves that a politician can have personal objections to abortions and still not be a jerk when it comes to reproductive health.

4. Environment

When it comes to the environment, Reid has never waivered, earning a perfect score from the League of Conservation Voters. He may not be the most vocal politician on this issue, but that doesn’t stop him from always doing the right thing.

Reid’s office includes three energy/environmental staffers so that he can help safeguard the EPA’s powers. He’s voted to close coal plants, protect public lands, maintain clean water, slow the effects of climate change, and even give extra consideration to endangered species. The planet will miss having his consistent vote, un-swayed by private interests.
 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
11. Downgrading the Filibuster
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jan 2019

How has that worked out over the last two years? How will it work out over the next two?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
24. Like the Republicans wouldn't have done it anyway when they got control?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jan 2019

There is no way they would have allowed Democrats to filibuster Judicial nominees. Reid left the filibuster in place for Supreme Court nominees, Republicans ditched that when it mattered to them.

Reid acted to partially lift the filibuster after Republicans started using it routinely to block almost all of Obama's lower court nominees, as well as filibustering appointments to Obama's cabinet. Had Reid not acted Republicans had an easy veto over Obama's entire Administration, and we never would have filled many open judicial slots with Democrats. Those slots would have remained open until Republicans took control over the Senate, and then they too would have been filled by Trump.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. Reed had to do that to get legistlation passed.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jan 2019

If he had not done that, no President Obama initiatives would have passed and republicans STILL would have downgraded the fillabuster if that fit their purposes.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
4. Very sorry to hear this. Harry Reid served our country well.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:31 AM
Jan 2019

It’s good to hear from him again, even if it’s the last time. It’s good to hear him confirm our conclusions about trump’s so-called “presidency.” WORST EVER.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
5. Stay strong Harry
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:31 AM
Jan 2019

I won't forget that he went out of his way before the 2016 election to say there was an FBI investigation into Drumpf and the FBI had to lie that there wasn't. This is the hardest part of anyone's life when you have to look death in the face. You were a great Senator and your legacy will be larger than the orange blob in the White House or McTurtle in the Senate.

peggysue2

(10,830 posts)
7. First I've read about Harry Reid's . . .
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jan 2019

health issues. Though I wondered after he retired if there was something beyond that fall he'd taken. Pancreatic cancer is awful. By the time a diagnosis is made it's frequently too late for any effective treatment.

to the man. He's been a fighter extraordinaire.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
8. He had surgery in May which I don't remember reading about...
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:45 AM
Jan 2019
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/politics/harry-reid-cancer-surgery-pancreas/index.html

Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has surgery for pancreatic cancer
By Manu Raju, CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent

Updated 4:57 PM ET, Mon May 14, 2018
Harry Reid treated for pancreatic cancer

peggysue2

(10,830 posts)
22. I missed it, too, babylonsister
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:17 AM
Jan 2019

Sad news for sure. My sister-in-law is struggling with the same disease. Prognosis not good despite the treatments. RBG is the exception to the rule; she's managed to fend off 3 cancers (including pancreatic cancer) and is still standing. Remarkable when you look at the stats.

Harry Reid was a bulldog during his tenure in the Senate. He'll be sorely missed.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
10. So, so sorry. What horrible news.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:53 AM
Jan 2019

He worked so hard for this country while republicans tore everything apart and blocked such necessary changes needed by 98 percent of the population.

Fla Dem

(23,690 posts)
13. Will there be a long good-bye for him as there was for John McCain?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jan 2019

Harry Reid served in the US Senate for 40 years, as the Democratic Senate Leader for 12 years, and Senate Majority Leader for 8 years. Hopefully he'll be as honored at least as much as John McCain was when he passed away.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
20. I would hope so!
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jan 2019

Harry Reid was a tough and grounded legislator who did a lot for this country. He deserves a great send off when his time comes. In the meantime, may he receive the best medical care available to him. I watched helplessly while my Grandmother died from this horrible form of cancer.

29. Harry Reid
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jan 2019

So sad today to read the news about Harry Reid. Thank your pazzyanne for your beautiful post about Senator Reid.
 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
14. I struggled with that question about Trump.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:46 AM
Jan 2019

And I’m glad Harry solved it for me. Trump is amoral. There’s nothing there.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
15. I am sorry to hear this
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jan 2019

Harry Reid was a great public servant and a great Democrat. I wish him a gentle, dignified passage.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
16. Reid's words about Trump remind me of "The emperor has no clothes."
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jan 2019

“I think he is without question the worst president we’ve ever had… We’ve had some bad ones, and there’s not even a close second to him.”

Just like the child who announced that the emperor has no clothes, Harry Reid stated something that virtually everyone can plainly see and which is obviously true, but many politicians are afraid to say.

Now Trump will calculate the repercussions of his possible responses and choose the one that's the most politically cost-effective, sort of like the way The Terminator responded to "Hey, buddy. You got a dead cat in there?" And when he does that, it'll amount to a perfect example of what it means to be amoral.



turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
19. I believe that Nancy Pelosi loves Harry Reid......................
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jan 2019

they see a lot in each other ...........

highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
21. Devastating news about Harry Reid. He's a great man who's done so much for this country. Unlike
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:14 AM
Jan 2019

Trump. Kudos to Harry for being so blunt now about Trump being the worst president we've ever had.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
25. Why couldn't it be Trump instead of Harry?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jan 2019

I liked Harry Reid. He was a fighter, a good man and a good American.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
27. A greqt man, a great Leader
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jan 2019

I have always deeply respected Harry Reid. We are a better nation for his efforts on behalf of all of us. He and Nancy were quite a team. I hope all of his remaining days are filled with love.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
58. Life is so unfair sometimes.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:10 PM
Jan 2019

Why does it seem like the evil live forever? Dick Cheney is still alive FFS and Trump will probably live to be in his 90's (I really hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me if he is around to torture us for another 20 years).

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
33. Oh dear!
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jan 2019

*sigh*

I've been getting a lot of "notices" that people close to me are dying soon and then there's the famous people I admire in some form dying in large numbers too. Of the ones I didn't know personally, this one saddens me.

niyad

(113,329 posts)
41. I am so sorry to hear that HArry is dying --and of pancreatic cancer. I have a friend who is
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jan 2019

dying of it as well. my deepest sympathies to him and his family.

cate94

(2,811 posts)
44. I'm sorry to hear this.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jan 2019

Pancreatic cancer took my sister, less than a month ago. Horrible disease, too fast, too mean.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
49. That is the definition of a sociopath and trump IS a huge one
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 06:02 PM
Jan 2019

as well as a malignant narcissist and a sadist. Add being a president to that mix of crazy and he is not only the worst POTUS ever but also a very dangerous person to have in that position.

Harry is a good person and should not have to die this way, it should be reserved for evil, corrupt traitors (especially orange ones).

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
55. We have such good, upstanding people on our side of the aisle. Makes me proud.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jan 2019

We've just got to do more research on pancreatic cancer treatment and cure. Thank you Harry for your service.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
56. I am so sorry to hear this. Harry Reid served us all well in the Senate, imo --
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jan 2019

He gave us long years of public service.

Thank you, sir, and go gently.
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