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ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:08 PM Aug 2012

"Traditional Medicare works better, and more cheaply, than most private-insurance plans."

. . .

At a seminar organized by the Brookings Institution last December, Aaron, along with two other experts on health-care policy—Judy Feder, a professor at Georgetown, and Paul Van de Water, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities—explained why he now thinks it would be dangerous and foolhardy to switch to vouchers, and why sticking with a modified version of the existing system is a much better idea for seniors. “My text today is the remark attributed to John Maynard Keynes,” Aaron wrote. “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”

And what are these facts?

1. Traditional Medicare works better, and more cheaply, than most private-insurance plans. With tens of millions of enrollees, Medicare can exploit its bargaining power to pay health-care providers less than private insurers do: that is the great advantage of a single-payer system. Typically, doctors and hospitals receive twenty or thirty per cent less from Medicare for a given procedure than they do from private insurers. They don’t like it, but they need the business.

2. Medicare’s big challenge is demographics, not cost inflation. We’ve all seen the projections: if nothing is done to constrain it, spending on retiree health care will virtually swallow the federal budget. But what’s driving that spending is the growing number of enrollees—another million and a half Baby Boomers every year—rather than rising spending per person. “[W]hen it comes to what health-care costs per person, Medicare’s growth rate is remarkably low,” Feder pointed out—about three per cent a year over the next decade, according to the latest projections, which is considerably less than the cost inflation in the private-insurance sector.

MORE. . .

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2012/08/privatizing-medicare-a-supporter-recants.html

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"Traditional Medicare works better, and more cheaply, than most private-insurance plans." (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 OP
I love my health care provider riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #1
Really no more war Aug 2012 #3
you need at least 100 posts before you can ask a Canadian to marry you for humanitarian reasons BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #5
lol riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #10
But no more war Aug 2012 #13
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #2
Most? I've yet to see a for-profit insurance run as efficiently as Medicare. Scuba Aug 2012 #4
Agree on medicare no more war Aug 2012 #14
If you want to find Medicare fraud, quit looking at Drs. and Nurses and look at Rick Scott... Scuba Aug 2012 #15
As a Medicare recipient I can vouch that it is the best medical plan I have Cleita Aug 2012 #6
They should do all that and put everyone on it, IMO. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #12
Here is what Bush's Medicare Prescription Drug Plan cost: kentuck Aug 2012 #7
Mind-boggling giveaway to big pharma ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #11
medicare's problem is the hyper-inflated cost of for-profit medicine & the diminishing share of HiPointDem Aug 2012 #8
i found that out as soon as i turned 65 madrchsod Aug 2012 #9
My wife and I will be eligible for... meaculpa2011 Aug 2012 #16
The ironic thing is that many Medicare and Medicaid plans are run by private insurance companies cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #17
Anyone with an ounce of sense hifiguy Aug 2012 #18

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
1. I love my health care provider
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:16 PM
Aug 2012

Oh Canada I stand on guard for thee....and will fight to the death to keep my health care.

no more war

(17 posts)
3. Really
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:32 PM
Aug 2012

I'm not surprised since your government supplies health
care. A tiny bit socialistic but certainly I don't care. It has become very very hard for an American to move to Canada. In the US if you marry a US citizen you get immediate citizenship. Is it the same in Canada?

no more war

(17 posts)
14. Agree on medicare
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:16 AM
Aug 2012

Everything you said about medicare I totally agree. The problem is, they have very little in the way safeguards to even slow down the incredible amount of fraud being perpitrated. How much is being stolen? No-one really knows. Look at your Dr. bills, if you can decipher them you may find incorrect or procedures that never happened. I was at a Dr. awhile back and his nurse asked, " should I bill that as a blah blah?" His response? "No, bill it as a flum tum toosie." I guess the second carried a higher price. Greed will be the downfall of our great nation

Only the dead have seen the end of war. George Santayana
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
15. If you want to find Medicare fraud, quit looking at Drs. and Nurses and look at Rick Scott...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:25 AM
Aug 2012

... and fraudulant insurance billings.

While there are certainly some docs billing for procedures not rendered, the insurance companies that act as Medicare/Medicaid intermediaries are the source of the vast majority of fraud.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. As a Medicare recipient I can vouch that it is the best medical plan I have
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:42 PM
Aug 2012

had in my lifetime. Getting rid of the Medicare Advantage plans and fixing the Prescription drug part would take care of any problems of insolvency. Also, if we could have a Part F where we could by the supplemental directly from Medicare instead of the insurance companies would make it perfect.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
8. medicare's problem is the hyper-inflated cost of for-profit medicine & the diminishing share of
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:45 PM
Aug 2012

national income going to the bottom 80%.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
9. i found that out as soon as i turned 65
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:42 PM
Aug 2012

thee best customer service and i also have my own personal medicare webpage.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
16. My wife and I will be eligible for...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:28 AM
Aug 2012

Medicare in 2 years, but we'll be keeping our private insurance instead of Medicare Part B.

My doctor doesn't accept Medicare and her oncologist doesn't accept any insurance.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
17. The ironic thing is that many Medicare and Medicaid plans are run by private insurance companies
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:07 PM
Aug 2012

so we know they can run things more smoothly when the Govt is the one calling the shots. They just aren't able to do things as cheaply or as effeciently as the govt run program because they want profit.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. Anyone with an ounce of sense
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
Aug 2012

has known this for years.

And that evil socialized Veterans' Administration has the highest patient satisfaction levels of any health program in the country.

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