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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:17 AM Dec 2018

Trump staff 'terrified' because 'mentally incapacitated' president thinks he's winning wall fight

Trump staff ‘terrified’ because ‘mentally incapacitated’ president thinks he’s winning wall fight: Howard Dean

TOM BOGGIONI 30 DEC 2018 AT 14:36 ET

Former physician Howard Dean –who went on to become the governor of Vermont and a Democratic presidential candidate — said on MSNBC on Sunday that Donald Trump is delusional and has convinced himself that he can win the battle for his border wall.

Speaking with MSNBC host Francis Rivera, Dean reiterated one more time that he thinks the 72-year-old Trump is “mentally incapacitated.”

“As I said before, I actually think the president is mentally incapacitated and I have thought so for quite some time,” Dean explained. “He says things that he knows aren’t true and that somehow he thinks people are going to believe, and they just don’t.”

“So essentially you can’t really make a bargain with somebody who is irrational, because they won’t keep it, and Republicans have been quoted off the record as saying such a thing,” Dean added before warning, “Republicans and the Democrats in Congress have got to do the best they can in the absence of a chief executive who is really a chief executive.”


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-staff-terrified-mentally-incapacitated-president-thinks-hes-winning-wall-fight-howard-dean/
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Trump staff 'terrified' because 'mentally incapacitated' president thinks he's winning wall fight (Original Post) workinclasszero Dec 2018 OP
How did Dean get sidelined because of "the Scream" Mr. Quackers Dec 2018 #1
Because the "liberal" MSM took him out in service to their right wing masters workinclasszero Dec 2018 #2
+1 ooky Dec 2018 #8
Can't Agree More! Scubamatt Dec 2018 #16
Damn good for any number. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2018 #30
Thanks workinclasszero Dec 2018 #41
+1 ChiTownDenny Dec 2018 #40
It wasn't the scream. Dean outspent everybody in IA and still got crushed Recursion Dec 2018 #3
I have really bad memory problems Mr. Quackers Dec 2018 #5
It got a lot of airplay but like zero people polled said the scream changed their mind Recursion Dec 2018 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2018 #7
Dianne Sawyer (ABC news pimp) turned up the volume Submariner Dec 2018 #21
No EffieBlack Dec 2018 #25
Exactly! Yonnie3 Dec 2018 #31
Yep. calimary Dec 2018 #34
I know a couple of people who were standing directly in front of him PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #26
That:s an excellent question.. whathehell Dec 2018 #22
Never ever underestimate how MSM dictates the message... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #23
Bingo workinclasszero Dec 2018 #42
He wasn't sidelined because of the scream NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #24
A few days before the Scream WhiteTara Dec 2018 #43
the russians were not trying to get Dean into office. niyad Dec 2018 #44
Talk about stuck on Stupid. djacq Dec 2018 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2018 #9
What are you doing? ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #10
Egads! Donald Trump is... Rory McRory Fitzrory Dec 2018 #11
Great analogy. volstork Dec 2018 #12
Thanking You Twice Rory McRory Fitzrory Dec 2018 #14
It's a classic! volstork Dec 2018 #15
Welcome to DU, Rory McRory Fitzrory! calimary Dec 2018 #36
Except he's ABNorma(l)! nolabear Dec 2018 #37
Ever seen confidence man? Kurt V. Dec 2018 #13
Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs! klook Dec 2018 #28
The Overconfidence Man Zorro Dec 2018 #35
LOL Kurt V. Dec 2018 #38
He believes his own lies workinclasszero Dec 2018 #39
I think trump believes his own lies PaulX2 Dec 2018 #17
That's the essential problem. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #27
Problem is the Repugnants in the House and Senate that have been enabling and protecting him from cstanleytech Dec 2018 #18
Hitler is in the Bunker. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #19
If your advisors and other ass licking repukes kacekwl Dec 2018 #20
Doing what Putin tells him to do IS what winning is for Trump. TeamPooka Dec 2018 #29
Trump has been showing signs of senility for a while Gothmog Dec 2018 #32
There's a very easy remedy that would work if Republicans were not complicit: NYC Liberal Dec 2018 #33
 

Mr. Quackers

(443 posts)
1. How did Dean get sidelined because of "the Scream"
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:40 AM
Dec 2018

but this sick fuck Trump ascends to the highest office?

makes no damn sense.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. Because the "liberal" MSM took him out in service to their right wing masters
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:44 AM
Dec 2018

They elevated Trump into the white house as well.

Scubamatt

(33 posts)
16. Can't Agree More!
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:25 AM
Dec 2018

Well saidas to how the MSM took down Dean. Wish they’d use that collective energy and power against 45.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
41. Thanks
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:14 PM
Dec 2018

It really annoys me how the MSM is portrayed as "liberal" or left wing.

That conventional wisdom couldn't be further from the truth, see below for instance!

Les Moonves: Trump's run is 'damn good for CBS'
By ELIZA COLLINS 02/29/2016 06:15 PM EST

Donald Trump’s candidacy might not be making America great, CBS Chairman Les Moonves said Monday, but it’s great for his company.

"It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS," Moonves said at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media & Telecom Conference in San Francisco, according to The Hollywood Reporter — perfectly distilling what media critics have long suspected was motivating the round-the-clock coverage of Trump's presidential bid.


https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/les-moonves-trump-cbs-220001
 

ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
40. +1
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:49 PM
Dec 2018

I remember Katie Couric on the Today show showing the infamous clip of the "hoorah" and claiming how un-presidential and unfit Dean was. At the time I didn't understand why I wasn't as offended by this as was she and, clearly, the rest of the MSM. Now I get it.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. It wasn't the scream. Dean outspent everybody in IA and still got crushed
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:46 AM
Dec 2018

And he was polling behind in NH before the Iowa Caucus. The campaign was already dead in the water.

 

Mr. Quackers

(443 posts)
5. I have really bad memory problems
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:48 AM
Dec 2018

I probably should have looked this up before I responded. That was the only salient thing I remembered about Dean. That and meeting him that summer at an event.

Seems like a long time ago.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. It got a lot of airplay but like zero people polled said the scream changed their mind
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:52 AM
Dec 2018

It's one of those things where the media latches on to a narrative.

Dean was just ahead of his time. If he'd run 4 years later, who knows?

Response to Mr. Quackers (Reply #1)

Submariner

(12,506 posts)
21. Dianne Sawyer (ABC news pimp) turned up the volume
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:05 AM
Dec 2018

of the playback to make Dean’s rejoicing sound like a scream against the rest of the background noise.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
25. No
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:20 AM
Dec 2018

He screamed into a direct feed mic that amped up his voice and tamped down the background noise. The mic is fed directly to the multbox from which the TV cameras get their sound so they get clean audio so the speaker's voice doesn't get drowned out by the crowd. It also means that if someone screams Into the mic, it will sound louder than it actually was to the people in the room

It wasn't a plot against him.

Yonnie3

(17,476 posts)
31. Exactly!
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:50 AM
Dec 2018

When we set up the press multi-box, we have an ambience microphone picking up crowd noise plus microphones for speech. A compressor is set to limit the maximum output of the box. When things get too loud the electronics reduces the levels. The microphone that gets turned down the most and soonest is the one(s) on the crowd. It is easily heard if one knows what to listen for, especially when viewing sporting events.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,881 posts)
26. I know a couple of people who were standing directly in front of him
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:25 AM
Dec 2018

and said they simply could not hear him at all because the room was so noisy.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,109 posts)
23. Never ever underestimate how MSM dictates the message...
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:09 AM
Dec 2018

They amplified (literally) the "SCREAM" to the point that it sounded like an unstable man and then ran with that for days and days. It ended his political career right then.
They could have, at any time, ended rumps political aspirations, but instead wanted to ride the crazy train for profits. And this is what we got for their greed.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
42. Bingo
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:21 PM
Dec 2018

You explain it perfectly.

The MSM could have ended Trump's candidacy a million times but refused to do so as they focused on Hillary's damn emails and other right wing conspiracy theories.

They knew a republican would enrich them and take off all monetary constraints so F America!

Wonder how they feel about their boy now when he labels them the enemy of the people?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
24. He wasn't sidelined because of the scream
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:10 AM
Dec 2018

Dean has been leading in the early polls going into the Iowa caucuses. He then started slipping right before the caucus and then, he not only didn't win, but he came in a distant third behind John Kerry and John Edwards.

the "Dean Scream" took place after the caucus when his candidacy had just suffered a fatal wounding.

WhiteTara

(29,721 posts)
43. A few days before the Scream
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:28 PM
Dec 2018

Dean had given a policy speech that would have been detrimental to broadcast media corps and they knew he would win, so they did that. Rahm being the asshole he is/was pitched him to the outer world, for what reason, I don't know.

Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

volstork

(5,403 posts)
15. It's a classic!
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:23 AM
Dec 2018

I'm a huge old movie buff, and actually PREFER them in B&W.

Let's just hope we all don't end up face-down in the swimming pool....

calimary

(81,440 posts)
36. Welcome to DU, Rory McRory Fitzrory!
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:18 PM
Dec 2018

GREAT film. GREAT image. Equally outstanding comparison. “Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark... “

They sure as hell ARE “out there in the dark”! A perfect description of the Deplorables.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
13. Ever seen confidence man?
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:18 AM
Dec 2018

in one tRump interview he says ' i can tell myself something and i just believe it'

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
39. He believes his own lies
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:33 PM
Dec 2018

The con man cons himself.

Trump lives in an alternate reality that is made up minute by minute out of whole cloth BS.

Sounds like insanity to me.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,881 posts)
27. That's the essential problem.
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:27 AM
Dec 2018

And it's not even that he believes his own lies. He has no clue he's lying. He thinks if he says something then it's true. Which is why he can say completely different things in the same sentence and not be aware of any contradiction.

cstanleytech

(26,317 posts)
18. Problem is the Repugnants in the House and Senate that have been enabling and protecting him from
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:41 AM
Dec 2018

day one.
If our party had the majority his being in office would be a minor nuisance at best as then Congress would be doing its job to be the check on the executive however currently we are not the majority and the party that is has been in bed with the President to get things like their guys on the supreme court.
In other words they threw the country under the bus to get their way.

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
20. If your advisors and other ass licking repukes
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:58 AM
Dec 2018

keep telling you and everyone else you're winning well then

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
33. There's a very easy remedy that would work if Republicans were not complicit:
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:02 PM
Dec 2018

Congress could do its job as a co-equal branch of the government. Forget impeachment; I’m just talking about passing legislation without worrying about his tantrums and then override his vetoes if need be. Congress has that power and they refuse to use it.

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