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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:32 PM Dec 2018

Michael Cohen just now tweeted this about Prague and Mueller--

What exactly does it mean?




Michael Cohen
?Verified account

I hear #Prague #CzechRepublic is beautiful in the summertime. I wouldn’t know as I have never been. #Mueller knows everything!


He just did a follow up tweet:


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Michael Cohen just now tweeted this about Prague and Mueller-- (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #1
Trying to deny the information that came out today. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #2
That is right, he has never been to Prague. Just outside Prague where the secret Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #32
Interesting question - did he give his cell phone to someone else? karynnj Dec 2018 #38
Supplied phone to team trump? California_Republic Dec 2018 #42
He probably gave a phone to Ivanka to use DURHAM D Dec 2018 #47
Or Individual 1 Me. Dec 2018 #53
To Don Jr. - who speaks the native language... ? Pluvious Dec 2018 #60
Very strange.... Pachamama Dec 2018 #3
+1 fierywoman Dec 2018 #46
So odd manor321 Dec 2018 #4
I read that wrong... Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #5
The report is it pinged near Prague. herding cats Dec 2018 #16
Intelligence enid602 Dec 2018 #55
Schindler responds . . . fleur-de-lisa Dec 2018 #6
Wow. What the hell is going on with this story? Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 #7
I'm lost. Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #9
Yes, me too. It's odd to deny the info and yet to say Mueller knows everything. I can't tell what Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 #14
McClatchy report today stated "cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported mtg". fleur-de-lisa Dec 2018 #20
+1 DesertRat Dec 2018 #26
Exactly. There's no conflict here. He probably was in a place we would call a "suburb," just pnwmom Dec 2018 #37
I think Schindler's point is pretty simple. People often speak of cities very broadly. pnwmom Dec 2018 #36
Cohen is trying to be cute. The McClatchy report states "cell signal puts Cohen OUTSIDE PRAGUE" fleur-de-lisa Dec 2018 #11
Like whoa!!! More confirmation of the Steele dossier uponit7771 Dec 2018 #18
Another possible clue is "summertime" DesertRat Dec 2018 #29
that's what I'm thinking too lanlady Dec 2018 #35
+1, but why would Cohen still be playing games at this point? uponit7771 Dec 2018 #17
Maybe he is messing with Twitler's head? fleur-de-lisa Dec 2018 #21
Hope so uponit7771 Dec 2018 #23
Maybe he's playing games but can't say more without violating his plea agreement DesertRat Dec 2018 #30
Schindler knows because NSA friends are telling him the truth. roamer65 Dec 2018 #62
The beat goes on! BlueJac Dec 2018 #8
Maybe someone borrowed his phone. boston bean Dec 2018 #10
As I Said UpThread Me. Dec 2018 #54
Did someone have/borrow/confiscate his phone? Sanity Claws Dec 2018 #12
Maybe trump was in Prague and used Cohen's phone to cover his tracks. OliverQ Dec 2018 #22
Edit: But they have them talking about Cohen being in Prague then FreeState Dec 2018 #33
I bet it was Finland. octoberlib Dec 2018 #40
That's what I'm wondering. Did someone else connected with collusion use this phone whose account Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 #25
carefully chosen words..... getagrip_already Dec 2018 #13
Yup. And maybe "summertime" DesertRat Dec 2018 #31
His phone was pinged but was HE there??? Who had the phone? nt mitch96 Dec 2018 #15
If Michael Cohen wasn't actually there...wouldn't he just say Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #19
Don't know, but it is a cold day for pontooning... Blue Owl Dec 2018 #24
Sounds to me Mme. Defarge Dec 2018 #27
It means he wasn't there, and Mueller knows it. Cohen isn't Manaforting this. maxsolomon Dec 2018 #28
Or he lied to Mueller about being there Yavin4 Dec 2018 #34
It means he wasn't INSIDE the city boundaries. So what? The Maclatchy story pnwmom Dec 2018 #39
maybe maxsolomon Dec 2018 #41
Cohen says he's never been to the Czech Republic but he told the WSJ he went in 2001-2 octoberlib Dec 2018 #45
As I said in my previous comment maxsolomon Dec 2018 #49
And yet David Corn reported that Cohen had said he'd spent an afternoon in Prague pnwmom Dec 2018 #50
Sounds like someone with Cohen's phone was there, and Cohen knows who it was nt Azathoth Dec 2018 #43
He'll have 3 years out of the spotlight to remember accurately Raven123 Dec 2018 #44
FOLLOW UP TWEET BY COHEN: He says he has never been to the Czech Republic Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 #48
It looks like Cohen is name dropping GreydeeThos Dec 2018 #51
We were in Europe in October. Adsos Letter Dec 2018 #58
We were in El Paso and someone we were traveling with got a cell phone bill indicating a call from MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #52
The Russians may have said Cohen was in Prague (generally speaking) and Steele chowder66 Dec 2018 #56
Perhaps he is sending a message and a clear one at that #Mueller knows Everything is pretty fucking UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #57
Ivana Marie Trump is a Czech former model and businesswoman, DOTARD JR IS IN TROUBLE !!! UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #59
Junior in Prague using one of the many Cohen cell phones obtained by Mr. Mueller. sarcasmo Dec 2018 #61

Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
2. Trying to deny the information that came out today.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:35 PM
Dec 2018

Pretty stupid though, because cell phone records don't lie.

In case you missed it, it was discovered that a cell phone tower pinged Cohen's cell phone just outside Prague during the time the Trump Tower meeting.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
32. That is right, he has never been to Prague. Just outside Prague where the secret
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:04 PM
Dec 2018

meeting with russian KGB, yes, but not IN Prague.

?? Maybe??

I dont know if to date there is info as to an exact location of the meeting?

I am asking, speculating.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
38. Interesting question - did he give his cell phone to someone else?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:22 PM
Dec 2018

Sounds pretty unlikely, but otherwise it is very hard for his cell phone to ping a cell tower near Prague.

(Easier to believe - he was there.)

Or as many said - his denial was being in the city limits of Prague.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
47. He probably gave a phone to Ivanka to use
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:44 PM
Dec 2018

when she traveled to E. Europe to meet up with Putin's girlfriend, Tony Blair's former girlfriend, and Murdoch's ex wife. Also known as Wendy Deng, possible Chinese spy.

Isn't it the same time frame?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
16. The report is it pinged near Prague.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:42 PM
Dec 2018

Not in Prague proper. So, we shall see what ends up being the case.

This is cryptic and seems like a threat in regards to Muller knowing everything.

I'm ready for some actual hard facts in this case. All this cryptic crap is wearing on my last nerve.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
55. Intelligence
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:18 PM
Dec 2018

Also, according to msnbc.com an Eastern European country’s intelligence agency said that phone intercepts between Russians indicated that Cohen was in Prague at the time of the meetings.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
6. Schindler responds . . .
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:37 PM
Dec 2018

John Schindler ✔ @20committee

What about an RIS dacha outside the city? That wouldn't be in Prague, technically -- would it, counselor? Asking for a friend. PS Mueller really does know everything.


Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
14. Yes, me too. It's odd to deny the info and yet to say Mueller knows everything. I can't tell what
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:42 PM
Dec 2018

the exact point of the tweet is.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
20. McClatchy report today stated "cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported mtg".
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:48 PM
Dec 2018

The Steel Dossier stated that a high level Trump associate went to Prague in 2016 to pay the Russian hackers who helped Trump win. This is one of the few points in the Steel Dossier that has yet to be proven, yet it is a critical piece because it directly ties Russia to Trump's win.

Michael Cohen has repeatedly denied that ever went to Prague. He basically states the same in his tweet today.

But the McClatchy report states that 4 sources confirm that "cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting." His cell phone signal was picked up by various allies of the US who were surveilling Russians.

Schindler is implying that Cohen was "near" Prague, not necessarily "in" Prague.

Cohen is playing with words.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
37. Exactly. There's no conflict here. He probably was in a place we would call a "suburb," just
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:22 PM
Dec 2018

outside of Prague. And it has always been acknowledged that some of the specific details in the dossier might not be totally accurate, while the overall scheme was.

Meanwhile, Cohen is relying on the technicality that he wasn't INSIDE Prague, he was just outside it.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
36. I think Schindler's point is pretty simple. People often speak of cities very broadly.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:20 PM
Dec 2018

I often refer to myself as living in Seattle, because that is an identifiable place to people in NY or LA. The exact truth is I live in a close-in suburb. But the division is just an arbitrary line on a map -- it feels no different in Seattle than where I live. And people in suburbs often do this -- it's a kind of shorthand since people who have never visited my city would never have heard of it -- but they have heard of Seattle.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
35. that's what I'm thinking too
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:07 PM
Dec 2018

The time of the TT meeting was early June, so not summertime. Cohen could have been in Prague in late spring so this weird statement of his would not be incorrect. Why is he yanking our chain over this?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
62. Schindler knows because NSA friends are telling him the truth.
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 05:32 PM
Dec 2018

NSA knows exactly where Cohen was in Czechia.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
54. As I Said UpThread
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:23 PM
Dec 2018

How do we know that Individual 1 didn't slip away to an area near Prague on his private jet, with a falsified manifesto, for an overnight or day?

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
33. Edit: But they have them talking about Cohen being in Prague then
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:06 PM
Dec 2018
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/article219016820.html

"During the same period of late August or early September, electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a conversation among Russians, one of whom remarked that Cohen was in Prague, two people familiar with the incident said."

UNLESS somehow Cohen is code word for someone else being there /ConspiracySoundingThoughts

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
25. That's what I'm wondering. Did someone else connected with collusion use this phone whose account
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:55 PM
Dec 2018

was in Cohen's name?

Who might have "assisted" the cause in Prague?

Giuliani? Page? Hannity? Stone?

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
13. carefully chosen words.....
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:41 PM
Dec 2018

He said he wasn't in prague, not that he wasn't in the vicinity. That's like sitting in Bethesda and saying you aren't in dc. Technically true, but misleading as hell.

Shell_Seas

(3,333 posts)
19. If Michael Cohen wasn't actually there...wouldn't he just say
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:48 PM
Dec 2018

"My phone wasn't pinged outside of Prague"

Is it a hint? A denial? I don't get it. Why play around after everything?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
28. It means he wasn't there, and Mueller knows it. Cohen isn't Manaforting this.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:00 PM
Dec 2018

He seems to be cooperating fully once he realized Trump's loyalty goes 1 way.

It also means we don't know the details of this story, whether its a red herring, or who planted it, or what it proves or doesn't prove.

We have to wait for Mueller.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
39. It means he wasn't INSIDE the city boundaries. So what? The Maclatchy story
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:25 PM
Dec 2018

put the cell phone signals just OUTSIDE the city.

So I think the likelihood is Cohen is being technically correct -- possibly in an effort to say he never lied about the matter. Technically, if he met with them outside of the city boundaries, then he wasn't INSIDE Prague.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
41. maybe
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:33 PM
Dec 2018

or we just have no way of knowing what this means. yet.

it might be the smocking gun, it might not. cohen might be honest here, he might be splitting hairs. I don't think he's outright lying as Mueller has him by the short hairs.

news report hermeneutics aren't going to clear it up.

on edit: Mueller should get him off Twitter. Twitter is a cancer on this planet.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
50. And yet David Corn reported that Cohen had said he'd spent an afternoon in Prague
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:56 PM
Dec 2018

14 years ago. That's not consistent with what he's saying today.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
51. It looks like Cohen is name dropping
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:58 PM
Dec 2018

He is one of those people who is just a born loser and has spent his entire existence hanging on to some one, any one, who looks important. Cohen is the slimiest of slimy lawyers who makes money in the New York cab market and records his client's phone conversations for later blackmail purposes. He is a proven liar, sell out, and fraud using his 'new' good buddy Mueller to protect his sorry rear end.

Other than that, Cohen is probably a pretty nice guy (if you don't mind drinking with a guy who never buys a round).

I am no cell phone expert, and I have never traveled to Europe. I would think for a person's cell phone to work overseas, it would require a new SIM card to access the networks. Did McClatchy somehow link a SIM card purchased on the continent with Cohen?

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
58. We were in Europe in October.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:59 PM
Dec 2018

Our phones worked fine, but we did notify our carrier (Verizon) that we would be there. They gave us a temporary rate for limited usage, but I'm not aware of any other changes.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
52. We were in El Paso and someone we were traveling with got a cell phone bill indicating a call from
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:03 PM
Dec 2018

Mexico. He never crossed the border. The tower must have been close.

chowder66

(9,070 posts)
56. The Russians may have said Cohen was in Prague (generally speaking) and Steele
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:26 PM
Dec 2018

may be using their words. So it sounds like it could be basically true based on how the Russians described where he was.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
57. Perhaps he is sending a message and a clear one at that #Mueller knows Everything is pretty fucking
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:29 PM
Dec 2018

DAMNING.

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