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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:04 PM Dec 2018

Top Conservative Commentator Lays Into Trump For Calling Troops 'Suckers' During Photo-Op In Iraq

From the article:

Former conservative radio host Charlie Sykes laid into Donald Trump on Wednesday for not only politicizing his visit to a combat zone in Iraq but also for calling U.S. troops “suckers.”
During an appearance on MSNBC’s Hardball, Sykes said, “You need to step back and reflect on the crass transactionalism of a president of the United States who would imply that men and women that served their country in the Middle East, perhaps given their lives, were suckers.”


To read more:

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/26/conservative-commentator-trump-troops-suckers.html

Trump respects no one and nothing. But the most deplorable among us continue to support him.
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Top Conservative Commentator Lays Into Trump For Calling Troops 'Suckers' During Photo-Op In Iraq (Original Post) guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP
And fifty million idiot traitors just nodded their heads and said: Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #1
Of course. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2
There is ONE reason they will literally almost die for the guy. Racism. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #3
Racism is the real reason for the GOP success. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #8
Trump's one skill is exploiting idiots. He's been whistling to those dogs for years flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #16
Excellent points all. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #17
This is all volstork Dec 2018 #27
agree. GOP tapped into ancient tribal hatreds to get votes. CharleyDog Dec 2018 #18
And it works. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19
The actual real reason is.... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2018 #32
That is also a huge factor. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #35
Spot on Eliot Rosewater, spot on. iluvtennis Dec 2018 #28
No kidding. But as we've seen over and over and over again ad nauseum... catbyte Dec 2018 #20
Be interesting to see troop poll numbers for trump empedocles Dec 2018 #4
Did I miss something? Ohiogal Dec 2018 #5
This article isn't very precise. I don't see "suckers" nt lostnfound Dec 2018 #14
He said it. catbyte Dec 2018 #21
Eric Prince to be new Secretary of Defense? Wait for it! maddiemom Dec 2018 #29
That's the picture I got too. Sudsy Dec 2018 #31
My God, he is a vile, disgraceful, moron Ohiogal Dec 2018 #34
It took Trump doing all this for Sykes to get "outraged" gratuitous Dec 2018 #6
True. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
Sykes has been critical of Trump before IIRC GusBob Dec 2018 #10
Jennifer Rubin as well. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #26
he's been a pet never trumper for quite a while. mopinko Dec 2018 #15
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Dec 2018 #7
Isn't "sucker" a con man's word for his victim? Cracklin Charlie Dec 2018 #11
Trump didn't mean anything by it... qazplm135 Dec 2018 #12
Nice!! guillaumeb Dec 2018 #13
But Barack Obama wore a tan suit Mr. Quackers Dec 2018 #22
Yes, there was all of that. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24
But what does the military think of him now? ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #23
I am certain that they were ordered to attend, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #25
Trump didn't call the troops suckers, he called all of us suckers... Red Pest Dec 2018 #30
Welcome to DU, and the conversation. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #36
I so hate him. smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #33

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. And fifty million idiot traitors just nodded their heads and said:
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:06 PM
Dec 2018

"Well, when you think about it..."

If a Democrat said this their career is over that instant, that instant. While such a comment would not be impeachable, the democrat who said it would finish their term and never be allowed anywhere near an election again, be lucky if we let them vote again.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Of course.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:09 PM
Dec 2018

But the obvious double standard is not so obvious to the conservative corporate media, nor to the conservative voters.




Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
3. There is ONE reason they will literally almost die for the guy. Racism.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:13 PM
Dec 2018

I say almost because anyone who would still support him doesnt have much character so not gonna die for him in the end.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
16. Trump's one skill is exploiting idiots. He's been whistling to those dogs for years
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:47 PM
Dec 2018

Racism plays a big part, but I don't think it's only about that. There's sexism and homophobia and religious and gun nuts. And yes, scared, entitled white people.

Sadly there are people even stupider than he is, and they love having an anti-hero. They aren't bright enough to succeed, so they want to tear down everyone else. In grade school we called them bullies, and that's why they love Dump.

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
18. agree. GOP tapped into ancient tribal hatreds to get votes.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:49 PM
Dec 2018

Humans loooooove to hate. Some people overcome this hardwiring through religion or enlightenment. Most don't try at all as it is too satisfying to hate. Reading the RW sites are full of sneering over refugees and not a word about Cohen/Prague or children dying in (concentration) camps.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
19. And it works.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:51 PM
Dec 2018

Appeals to fear, racism, difference, all work.


Close the doors on fortress America to keep out "the others".

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
32. The actual real reason is....
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:15 PM
Dec 2018

having several thousand millionaires and billionaires on their side (including many with our MSM) that don't give a damn about what methods are used to win, including overt or covert racism. Blatant lies, hundreds of forms of deception, and usury of the churches are perfectly moral and acceptable so long as they achieve their goals.

Their primary goal is to totally control the lives of the unwashed mass of working folk, including worsening economic inequality, destroying our social fabric, eliminating and privatizing all government functions and gaining strong footholds in our military structures and system of justice.

Without all that money behind the GOP, they wouldn't amount to jack shit.

Makes one feel somewhat hopeless some days when you're just trying to keep the bills paid......

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
35. That is also a huge factor.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:36 PM
Dec 2018

Conservative thought dominates the media, and the agenda of what is deemed realistic.

But the rich use racism as one form of division.

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)
5. Did I miss something?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:27 PM
Dec 2018

In what way does Dumpy consider our troops "suckers"?

Man, that's low, even for him. I guess his depravity has no bottom.

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
21. He said it.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:56 PM
Dec 2018

I know the president's supporters think that nothing Donald Trump does can ever satisfy his critics.

But honestly, the president's Christmas visit to soldiers in Iraq was astonishingly bad.

In one very brief visit, the president denigrated the value of America's past presence in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, asserting that other countries have played us as “suckers.”

snip

However, American military men and women are in danger and have been in danger. Thousands have died in Iraq and in Afghanistan. These wars have been highly controversial, but no previous president has ever suggested those fighting under our flag are “suckers.”

But he didn't stop there. He also suggested that, in the future, our troops will be mercenaries.

Read that quote again: “If they want us to do their fighting, they also have to pay a price and sometimes it is a monetary price.”

Just what can that mean other than that our president seems willing to put our military up for sale.

To the highest bidder? Or what?

https://www.channel3000.com/news/opinion/wineke-trump-visits-troops-calls-them-suckers/953648057

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)
34. My God, he is a vile, disgraceful, moron
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:51 PM
Dec 2018

How can anyone associated with the military even stand to be in the same room with the orange POS?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. It took Trump doing all this for Sykes to get "outraged"
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:29 PM
Dec 2018

And he goes on MSNBC to do it. Imagine a Democrat committing any one of these acts, let alone all of them. Sykes and Fox would have their outrage meters pegged for a month.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
26. Jennifer Rubin as well.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 04:25 PM
Dec 2018

But none of them talk about the fact that the GOP is built on a foundation of racism.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
23. But what does the military think of him now?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 04:12 PM
Dec 2018

I am honestly surprised that no one shot him on his visit. However, barring violent protest, what could military personnel do? Can the CO order them to attend the MAGA hat signing? If so, what happens if they refuse? It's an untenable situation, and something must give before long.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
25. I am certain that they were ordered to attend,
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 04:24 PM
Dec 2018

and they know what they are expected to do.

The ultimate captive audience.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
30. Trump didn't call the troops suckers, he called all of us suckers...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 04:53 PM
Dec 2018

We were all suckers until he became president. Now we're not suckers. Sounds like the typical con artist/grifter: "You were a sucker, but now that you are buying my line, you are being very smart. In fact, if you just buy a case of my snake oil, you will be so smart, healthy, happy, and all your problems will just disappear."

Anyway, it is the usual BS by Agent Orange.

He also said in his speech to the troops that if anyone attacks us they will suffer like no one has ever suffered before. More BS. What is he going to do, use nukes? Will he kill people and then bring them back to life and kill them again? Will he kill everyone and then salt the earth? More Trump hyperbole.

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