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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:39 PM Dec 2018

25 Ways the Canadian Health Care System Is Better Than The US System

From the article:

Dear America:
Costly complexity is baked into Obamacare. No health insurance system is without problems but Canadian-style single-payer— full Medicare for all— is simple, affordable, comprehensive and universal.
In the early 1960s, President Lyndon Johnson enrolled 20 million elderly Americans into Medicare in six months. There were no websites. They did it with index cards!
Below please find 25 ways the Canadian health care system is better than the chaotic U.S. system.
Replace it with the much more efficient Medicare-for-all: everybody in, nobody out, free choice of doctor and hospital. It will produce far less anxiety, dread, and fear.
Love, Canada


To read more:

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/12/26/25-ways-canadian-health-care-system-better-obamacare?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=25%20Ways%20the%20Canadian%20Health%20Care%20System%20Is%20Better%20Than%20Obamacare&

It is difficult to argue with a cheaper and more efficient way to provide healthcare to all as a right, but in a system where profit counts for more than people, thata rgument will be made.
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25 Ways the Canadian Health Care System Is Better Than The US System (Original Post) guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP
In the US money is the top priority. Humanity is often placed at the bottom of the list! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2018 #1
Agreed. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2
For all the US PTB often brag about the US often comes in at the bottom of the list for many things. RKP5637 Dec 2018 #3
Especially knowledge of other countries. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #4
We need area51 Dec 2018 #5
we pay for wealth care first, then health care Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #6
A significant portion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7
Ruh roh Jake Stern Dec 2018 #8
ACA is the best compromise on the way to Medicare4all Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #9
The article points out the obvious deficiencies. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10
Don't disagree in the least Jake Stern Dec 2018 #11
I agree with you. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #12
k and r and bookmarking niyad Dec 2018 #13
From personal and family experience, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #14
I remember in Michael Morre's documentary, when his relatives won't even cross over niyad Dec 2018 #15
States need to band together and form a single payor system. roamer65 Dec 2018 #16
That would be one way to start it. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #17

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Agreed.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:45 PM
Dec 2018

But what is truly bizarre, in my view, is that many refuse to recognize that the problem of providing better care for less has already been solved by most of the industrialized world.

But in a country where money is called speech, and bribes are called arguments, money wins.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
3. For all the US PTB often brag about the US often comes in at the bottom of the list for many things.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:48 PM
Dec 2018

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Especially knowledge of other countries.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:52 PM
Dec 2018

Being from Canada, I know how little people actually know about Canada, or the Canadian health care system. And this lack of knowledge, combined with the "USA #1" slogans, lead to people not realizing how bad the US healthcare system really is for anyone who needs to use it for anything more than basic wellness care.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,347 posts)
6. we pay for wealth care first, then health care
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:29 PM
Dec 2018

A portion of the cost of every pill, doctor bill and hospital bill goes to support those lavish office buildings, incessant advertisements, an army of "doctors" whose only purpose is to review and deny insurance claims, and a top-heavy pyramid of executives and salespersons living high off extracting premiums and denying coverage.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. A significant portion.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:36 PM
Dec 2018

The entire healthcare industry is incredibly profitable, while millions have no access to care.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,347 posts)
9. ACA is the best compromise on the way to Medicare4all
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:41 PM
Dec 2018

It's not an end goal; it's the best we could get given the opposition in place.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. The article points out the obvious deficiencies.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:43 PM
Dec 2018

And President Obama said that he would have preferred a single payer system.

"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we've got to take back the White House, we've got to take back the Senate, and we've got to take back the House."


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/16/barack-obama/obama-statements-single-payer-have-changed-bit/

So there is that.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
11. Don't disagree in the least
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:46 PM
Dec 2018

I am a strong supporter of single payer healthcare.

It just seems like whenever there is any criticism of ACA posted on here no matter how slight there are those who act like it's a personal affront to them.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. I agree with you.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:47 PM
Dec 2018

I have previously posted about Medicare for All, and it is interesting how many people insist that the cheaper method, single payer, is somehow unaffordable.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. From personal and family experience,
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:35 PM
Dec 2018

I feel that the Canadian system is better. Even Canadian conservatives admit that single payer works better. And it was first adopted by a Conservative Provincial Premier.

niyad

(113,318 posts)
15. I remember in Michael Morre's documentary, when his relatives won't even cross over
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:19 PM
Dec 2018

to have coffee here, because of how poor our system is.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. States need to band together and form a single payor system.
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 03:10 PM
Dec 2018

States like NY, NJ, CA, MI, WA, OR etc, etc.

There will be a need for system of checks to prevent medical immigration to those states from the ones that don’t participate.

Such as a 1 year work and residency requirement. The requirement in Ontario is 3 months residency for OHIP.

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