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ooky

(8,926 posts)
7. We can't.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:24 AM
Dec 2018

Their views of Trump will not change until Trump does something to change them. We saw that on full display last week when he cowered from the criticism of Limbaugh, Coulter, and Ingraham. My guess is when Trump supporters start to feel the pressure on their own wallets from Trump's failed policies they will start to peel away. Right now they are still living and thriving on lies.

elocs

(22,597 posts)
9. Actually we can. Not all Trump supporters are Trump followers.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:30 AM
Dec 2018

Trump followers are a lost cause, but Trump supporters can be had as their support might soften.
Simple Trump voters could be very gettable in that there were those who voted for him because the Supreme Court and judicial nominations were important to them and they didn't want Clinton making them.
Other than the Trump followers, the best we could hope for is that they just wouldn't vote.

ooky

(8,926 posts)
10. Its the lost cause (followers) group I was speaking of.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:42 AM
Dec 2018

I believe the supporters you are speaking of are already thinking about GOP alternatives, like Nikki Haley, who I predict will be the GOP nominee in 2020.

elocs

(22,597 posts)
13. Yes, do we really want Trump gone & need to run against someone like Nikki Haley?
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:27 PM
Dec 2018

I rather run against a weakened & battered Trump than anyone else, but so many on the Left want him gone as soon as possible. Beware the Law of Unintended Consequences.

ooky

(8,926 posts)
16. No, we don't need that
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:27 PM
Dec 2018

but I doubt anything we do or don't do will prevent it if it plays out that way.

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
18. Don't forget the ones who voted for him because they swallowed the 30-year
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:38 PM
Dec 2018

tsunami of anti-Hillary nonsense.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
4. My guess is that the 38% includes some Democratic and Independent supporters....
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 10:42 AM
Dec 2018

....because the base of the Republican Party is about 27 or 28%.

Paladin

(28,271 posts)
12. Would you ever have believed there are that many stupid people in this country?
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:03 PM
Dec 2018

I sure as hell wouldn't have.

Bucky

(54,041 posts)
15. Thank you! Really, 38% is such an embarrassment
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:37 PM
Dec 2018

And people that dumb don't know how to use condoms, so you just know they'll be raising little future Bible Camp haters

Takket

(21,620 posts)
6. Geez I really thought he would have at least dropped
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:21 AM
Dec 2018

Into the low 30s by now. That is actually kind of saddening.

Johonny

(20,880 posts)
8. I haven't seen a Trump supporter in a while now
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:25 AM
Dec 2018

I know there are areas of the country where he maintains that FOX bubble support. But honestly, where he wasn't liked in 2016, he's hated openly and almost universally now. He's the first president I can remember to be openly mocked by friends that aren't even political.

ThreeGs

(17 posts)
14. Value of propaganda
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:35 PM
Dec 2018

Anybody have the numbers on the Fox Propaganda network ( aka "American Pravda" )? I would bet they are remarkable close to these. After all, some people think; others are led.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
19. The cumulative polls over at . . .
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 02:31 PM
Dec 2018

538 have had a slight dip. Trumpski's overall approval #s are being propped up by Rasmussen and Harris Interactive; they have him in the upper 40s. But the others? He's definitely dropping to 40 and below.

The surveys are more damning when you look at the strongly approve, slightly approve, get the Hell out of town numbers.

Trumpski is on life support. Personally? I'm for pulling the plug but I agree with Scarborough--the Administration is terminal one way or the other.

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