Hate Radio shutdown the government. Maybe it's time to shut

[maxrandb]

Hate Radio down!

[beachbum bob]

1. not until democrats take full control with filibuster proof senate

the only way to shutdown the bullshit is to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.

Not too likely to happen

[ck4829]

2. We've got to be a little more resourceful than this

"Only way" as in "only way" they think we should look into.

Alex Jones HAS lost platforms this year, groups like Breitbart are losing sponsors, and we're doing that without the fairness doctrine.

[beachbum bob]

14. nothing will effect rush limbaugh or foxnews, neither would operate in the same manner if

a fairness doctrine was in place. Since those are the big draws, jones and breitbart was nothing in comaprison

[Ponietz]

15. Right on!

I love to see comments like yours. Anything is possible. We can roll these creeps.

[ck4829]

3. K&R

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Boycott advertisers on Rush and Seans' shows.

It worked before with Sandra Fluke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh%E2%80%93Sandra_Fluke_controversy

Matter of fact, it worked so well, that WABC-AM in NYC didn't renew Rush's contract and he's on a secondary station.

[Shell_Seas]

5. More importantly...

We should bring back the fairness doctrine

[Sherman A1]

6. Precisely

I believe that change has created more damage to our society than anything.

[olegramps]

25. I have written over and over about the situation. I totally agree.

You can go after the individual people with boycotts and have limited success or actual silence them. But, only find that those who control the forum will have a ready supply of extremists to carry their message of hatred and division. Their objective remains to totally destroy the credibility of the liberals and are willing to provide absolute lies to achieve it. Yes, yes and yes again. The Fairness Doctrine must be restored along with the breaking up the monopoly that was created with Reagan's repeal of legislation banning multiple station ownership. Their war on the truth is two forked, ability to spread propaganda unopposed and domination of the air waves.

[Buckeyeblue]

7. Target the sponsors

We need to make it toxic for those who advertise on these shows. Simply put, if you advertise on Rush, I won't buy your products or use your services.

The problem is that we need some way to stay organized around that. I don't listen to any of them anymore. Several years ago I did because I was curious what their arguments were. Then they abandoned even giving the impression about policy debate and made it all about liberals being evil.

They structure themselves very similarly to a soap opera. Good vs. Evil. How the evil characters plot together to take down the good. It's based on taking a small fact or fiction and twisting it.

[maxrandb]

10. It's going to take more than that

It's not just boycotting advertisers on Rush... it's boycotting advertisers on any station or show that has even the most remote connection to Rush and shows like his.

I don't care if it's a fucking cooking show, if they are affiliated with any station that broadcasts that filth, boycott their advertisers as well.

Hammer the local stations and local advertisers, even if they are only remotely affiliated with hate talkers.

Universities and pro teams that allow their games to be broadcast on any station that provides even one fucking second of this hateful shit. They too need to understand that any relationship with this shit is not acceptable.

We've allowed other stations and shows to pretend that they can be just a little pregnant.

Bullshit, they're complicit in the birth of this crap.

[Buckeyeblue]

12. Let's do it

I like the complicit by association. But we need a vehicle to be able to keep track of the direct and indirect advertisers.

Is there a web site that already does this?

[C_U_L8R]

27. The problem with a boycott is

I don't buy erectile disfunction stuff, reverse mortgages or porkrinds for that matter.
Rightwing consumers, media and manufacturers live in their own weird world.

[Buckeyeblue]

29. Yeah. I don't either.

And boycotting drug companies gets tricky because they make other essential medications that people need.

Other than the drug companies, I don't see how the other groups at advertise can buy enough advertising to pay for Rush's salary. Doesn't he make some ungodly amount?

[Joe941]

8. We should make a law that makes hate radio illegal.

Rush and hannity would be off the next day.

[Generic Brad]

11. My heart says yes, but my head says no

The First Amendment gives them the right to say what they want. We just have to make it toxic in the marketplace of ideas.

[Joe941]

13. Hate is not free speech. It causes some to hurt people.

[Generic Brad]

16. And MAGA people can label DU as hate speech

Whoever is in power can easily claim their opponents are spouting hate speech. If we were to successfully criminalize hate speech, that would be turned around and used on us someday. Hate is in the eye of the beholder.

[Ron Obvious]

17. Nonsense. Of course it is.

Defining any speech as "hate speech" requires a government to pass judgement on speech which is simply opening the door to banning any kind of speech they don't like.

The Catholic Church would certainly charge Galileo with hate speech for saying the earth went around the sun rather than the other way around because that caused a lot of hurt feelings.

Free Speech as defined in the first amendment is one of the things I've most admired about the US constitution. It's fairly rare world-wide, even in ostensibly open societies.

Ban incitement to violence, prosecute slander, but nobody should be prosecuted for expressing opinions.

[GWC58]

9. Two of the worst, and I do mean the absolute

worst, things to happen to this nation came in the last two decades of the 20th century; hate radio in the late 80’s & FOX News in 1996. Since those have come into being the hate level in this nation has risen, and risen a lot! 😡

[Greybnk48]

18. That is absolutely true!

Along with an aggressive, militant evangelical movement that became noticeable in the 80's when they bought up so many radio stations. It was less "we love Jesus" and more of "here's a list of types of people and things we hate." Falwell, Graham Jr., Robertson, etc.

Not new, just more wide-spread and aggressive.

[CrispyQ]

19. In 35+ years, I have seen no evidence that Democratic leadership takes hate radio seriously.

Or its evil spawn, Fox News. I'm not sure they even realize that marketing is part of politics. If you want the chance to set policy, you have to market to the masses. The right has been doing this for decades. I'm sorry that more people are swayed by trite memes than the party's platform, but that is the truth of the matter & the dems better wake the fuck up & sharpen their marketing game. There is absolutely no guarantee that 2020 will be as good a turnout & outcome as 2018. We need to be more than the anti-Trump party.

[George II]

20. The FCC had strict rules on how many media outlets can be owned by one corporation....

...in each "market". Those rules have been gradually eroded away to the point that they're virtually gone.

If one drives a few hundred miles across the country and scans the radio stations, all you get are Hannity, Limbaugh, Gallagher, etc. They're on almost 24 hours.

[Takket]

23. It would be an interesting social experiment

To go to a rural area and buy up every station the serves it. Replace hate radio with Progressive shows. Let them run for 20 years and see how that are votes later.

[dlk]

21. Hate Radio and Television have Caused Enormous Damage to Our Country

And the perpetrators are laughing all the way to the bank.

[allgood33]

22. Stop buying from every sponsor and every backer. Biggest boycott ever!!

[harumph]

24. upthread - people are talking about boycotting advertising dollars -

but my suspicion is that much of the funding is under-the-table and
even if the advertising dollars went away, they'd still be on the radio.
It's a loss leader for the plutocrats.

[Jake Stern]

26. Short of eliminating the First Amendment

right wing hate radio is here to stay.

Even if you stripped them of every advertiser there will be in individuals and groups that will step in to cover the costs. Just look at the millions a single GoFundMe campaign has raised by whipping up the deplorables. They can do the same for Rush and Hannity plus they'll have financial backing from rich right wingers like the Kochs, the Waltons and the DeVos family just to name a few.

[hostalover]

28. I remember the first time I became aware of Rush Limbaugh. I had never heard of him but

one day, right after Bill Clinton's first term started, I was channel surfing and on the program I landed on, this large man came barreling onto the screen, "Day 45 (whatever) of captivity," he thundered! I was stunned. WTF?? Who was this guy and what was he was talking about? It soon became clear who and what he was talking about and I was, as I said, stunned. Also disgusted and oh, so disappointed. The euphoria of Clinton's election was wondrously fresh and how could this buffoon be allowed to malign him this way and on our television sets!? This was the start of Limbaugh, I believe, and though he didn't last on TV, he soon made his way to radio and the rest is, unfortunately, history.

[maxrandb]

30. A boycott is NOT government censorship of free speech!

Please stop trying to post that drivel on this thread.

A boycott is simply saying; "I'm not financially supporting any company that has even a 1/100,000,000th attachment to this hateful dehumanizing of over 50% of my fellow Americans.

And to those who say that they'll get just be funded by individual billionaires, I say have at it. Every fucking dollar they need to spend to prop up this hateful crap is one dollar less for their hateful think-tanks and one dollar less for their hateful State and national candidates.