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WOOOT!! (Original Post) yuiyoshida Dec 2018 OP
The former rats are jumping off the sinking ship before they drowned! democratisphere Dec 2018 #1
The Questions Me. Dec 2018 #2
Johnson County Kansas greymattermom Dec 2018 #4
There's always been conservative value Democrats. Truman was no liberal. Reagan started out ... marble falls Dec 2018 #11
There Are Conserva Dems & Then There Are Cons Me. Dec 2018 #12
According to all the polls taken on the issues we are a leftist nation. onit2day Dec 2018 #22
To get elected. Politicians often join the party they believe will get them elected. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #14
That's The Case With Current Rep. Kathleen Rice Me. Dec 2018 #23
I don't trust these republicans who now want yo be democrats. blueinredohio Dec 2018 #3
I guess you don't like winning. Nitram Dec 2018 #19
It depends on if you consider watered down Democratic policies to be a win. No matter how Autumn Dec 2018 #25
A little more about Clayton- EleanorR Dec 2018 #5
GOP goals since Rotten Ronnie and the Newt Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #6
I'm happy she's abandoning the republicans EleanorR Dec 2018 #8
you're right, of course Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #13
Her District Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #27
I saw that, and it's excellent news EleanorR Dec 2018 #28
No ground game for her challenger. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #29
It appears this has been a process for Clayton, not a snap decision gratuitous Dec 2018 #15
ah but will she vote like a Dem? Javaman Dec 2018 #7
Here's her voting record EleanorR Dec 2018 #9
Glass-half-empty kinda guy? Nitram Dec 2018 #20
no just realistic. Javaman Dec 2018 #24
Do dems really need cons watering down their agenda? arent we already seeing Fullduplexxx Dec 2018 #10
I just don't trust any of them n/t dajoki Dec 2018 #16
Welcome to the bright side, Rep. Stephanie! Go toward the light! Go toward the light! nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #17
This is even more fun than winning elections! Nitram Dec 2018 #18
this is weird for me.. TalenaGor Dec 2018 #21
I don't trust any fair weather politicians. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #26
at that rate, theyll all be dems by mid 2019 Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #30

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
4. Johnson County Kansas
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:38 AM
Dec 2018

Think Bob Dole, Nancy Kassebaum, etc. Schools are the most important thing because the Kansas side has better schools. You can also see the difference when it shows. One side of State Line Road is plowed.

marble falls

(57,145 posts)
11. There's always been conservative value Democrats. Truman was no liberal. Reagan started out ...
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:01 PM
Dec 2018

unionist and conservative Democrat. Some of them good, some not so much.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
22. According to all the polls taken on the issues we are a leftist nation.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:58 PM
Dec 2018

By huge majorities we all want Medicare for all or single payer health care ins; We all want free public college; livable min wage; free child care; an end to income inequality; weapons of war not allowed on the streets, comprehensive immigration reform; money out of politics; dealing with climate change rather than ignoring it; pollution regulated and prevented. So much more unites us than divides us and this leftist majority is being ruled over by a right wing conservative minority.
END THE SLAVE STATE PROTECTION OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, which has overruled the votes of the majority.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
23. That's The Case With Current Rep. Kathleen Rice
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:12 PM
Dec 2018

part of the gang of 13/14 and so-called rebel Dems, Pelosi foe. She was a Con back in 2005.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
3. I don't trust these republicans who now want yo be democrats.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:29 AM
Dec 2018

They'll bring republican morals and ethics (of which there are none or very few). And they only do it to win otherwise they would be a democrat in the first place.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
25. It depends on if you consider watered down Democratic policies to be a win. No matter how
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 04:41 PM
Dec 2018

you look at them Democratic policies and ideas are the best over any Republican idea. When Republicans decide to be Dems and work on blending those Dem policies with their ideas to make them more palatable to themselves I don't consider that a win. America has proven time and again that they like what the Left offers. A good chunk of Republicans love the ACA and hate Obamacare. Go figure.

EleanorR

(2,393 posts)
5. A little more about Clayton-
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:44 AM
Dec 2018

A moderate first elected in 2012, Clayton has been at odds with party leadership on a number of issues over the past six years. But she said it was Republican leadership’s announcement last week that it was considering starting from scratch on the K-12 education funding plan that proved the last straw for her.

“I said, ‘I can’t be a part of this any more,’” she said. “Now it’s coming home. It’s affecting my district. It’s affecting my children. It’s affecting my neighbors’ children. The abandoning of the support of public education is something I couldn’t stand for. I wasn’t going to lend my name to the party anymore.”


SNIP

“Representative Clayton’s views and voting history prove her to be a true moderate, and
one that works for every single person in her district,” Sawyer said. “Rep. Clayton will be welcomed into the House Democratic Caucus. We have continuously worked with her on important issues such as education and healthcare, and look forward to working alongside Stephanie as a member of our caucus. She is a public servant with incredibly impressive passion, grit, and drive to do the right thing for Kansans.”


https://shawneemissionpost.com/2018/12/19/citing-partys-public-education-positions-rep-stephanie-clayton-announces-shes-leaving-republicans-75864

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,397 posts)
6. GOP goals since Rotten Ronnie and the Newt
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:52 AM
Dec 2018

GOP has tried to starve government since Reagan and Gingrich. They've made no secret that they want to eliminate funding for everything except defense. They've attacked health, education, welfare, EPA, business regulation, research including NASA and CDC, and yet Clayton is just now noticing.

Looks like she only notices when her own interests are threatened. That's not a good attitude for someone seeking a public servant office.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
27. Her District
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 04:55 PM
Dec 2018

was polling leaning Dem. And their issue was Education according to a young fellow who was assigned to NV 4 by the DNC as a coordinator. He lives in this ladies District.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. It appears this has been a process for Clayton, not a snap decision
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:16 PM
Dec 2018

I'm a little less wary than others of bringing folks like her into the party. If she has had an awakening of sorts as to the nature of Republican governance, she can be a valuable ally in interpreting Republican shenanigans. Peeling away the reachable Republicans makes the remaining ones all that more extreme. The Democratic caucus doesn't have to put Clayton in a leadership position. Let her establish her bona fides and advance like any other member of the caucus.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
24. no just realistic.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 04:24 PM
Dec 2018

don't ever believe that just because they switched parties that they are "suddenly enlightened", they are just no longer card carrying repukes.

Fullduplexxx

(7,867 posts)
10. Do dems really need cons watering down their agenda? arent we already seeing
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:46 PM
Dec 2018

The effects of these dems with the no labels/ problem solvers ? Now that dems are gonna have the house we are seeing cons become dems . I wouldnt put it past the gop to send cons into the dem party .
Am i being paranoid or overly cautious?

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
21. this is weird for me..
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:52 PM
Dec 2018

How do you just switch parties like that are you suddenly pro-choice? are you suddenly anti-death penalty? are you suddenly pro-choice everything Democrats stand for? If not then what the f*** are you doing in our party? If so then who are you in the first place?

I feel like these people are just trying to make sure that they keep their jobs..... Maybe they didn't have no personal values....

Or maybe they're just infiltrating us to pull us right.....

I don't know... I don't trust it...

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
26. I don't trust any fair weather politicians.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 04:45 PM
Dec 2018



There's no guarantee they won't vote straight (R) 100% of the time.

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