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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeneral Flynn and the moment of despair for the country.
It was the moment.
When we learned that General Flynn had been secretly negotiating with the Russians. He was the newly appointed National Security Advisor. It was a moment of national panic. We wondered how much he had given the Russians?
Sally Yates went to the White House to tell them that General Flynn may be compromised. We expected he would be gone in short order.
But, it was not to be. The White House kept him in his position, receiving the most top secret information of our country, for almost another 3 weeks. Trump said that he had full faith in him.
That was a moment of despair. We knew we were in deep trouble.
Now today, General Flynn is bad-mouthing the FBI for accusing him of lying. In hindsight, it seems he should have been imprisoned at the very moment he betrayed our country.
lindysalsagal
(20,730 posts)populistdriven
(5,644 posts)Lock em up!
spike91nz
(180 posts)The lot of them are traitors. Lock them up and keep them away from the world...forever.
PJMcK
(22,048 posts)Will the sentencing judge let Flynn off without jail? The lawyers' attempted to muddy the waters by claiming Flynn wasn't warned that lying to the FBI is a crime. Will that late-hour claim anger the judge? Will the prosecutors change their recommendation?
In spite of his assistance, Flynn is a criminal and a traitor. He deserves punishment.
saljr1
(273 posts)The Special Counsel to release the 302 ( notes on Flynn interview ) yesterday to prove that Flynn was not set up to lie. I'm real interested in the judge's comments before sentencing. If I was the judge I would give him a 30 day sentence even though the government recommended no time just because of his dishonesty in his lawyers brief to the judge.
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)We keep hearing more about the damage they've already done and it gets demonstratively worse every single day - and that's just what we've learned so far. And we know that there's much worse to come.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)Can you imagine what Flynn must have served up to get Mueller to recommend no jail time??? Don on a platter???
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Why do Republicans vote against their own best interests? I've come to the conclusion that Republican politicians with a big helping hand from the right wing corporate controlled M$M, including AM radio have demonized Democrats. Democrats are less than human, are lazy, are the ones on welfare mooching off of hard working Republicans. Democrats are baby killers are not patriotic are to be scorned. Republicans vote against Democrats, period.
Republicans vote for a car thief, Darrell Issa, over any Democrat. Republicans vote for a man who stole millions of dollars from Medicare, Rick Scott, voted him governor, voted him Senator against any Democrat, Republicans voted for a man who deserted from the National Guard, George Bush, Republicans came within a whisker of voting for an alleged child molester, Roy Moore. Finally, Republicans voted for draft dodging, crooked, money grubbing, self proclaimed sexual assaulter, accused rapist, idiot, Donald Trump.
Republicans don't care that people in the Trump administration have been colluding with Russia, don't care that the GOP has been taking foreign money from Russia, UAE, Saudi Arabia. Republicans don't care that Russia has used a massive smear campaign on social media against Democrats. Senator Orin Hatch let the cat out of the bag when being questioned about the corruption that was being uncovered. He first said that it was just angry Democrats trying to dig up dirt on Republicans. When he was told that the charges were being filed by Trump's own justice department, Hatch responded, "I don't care."
They all don't care people, Orin Hatch told the truth. Democrats are all bad, subhuman, any Republican is better, even a traitor to our country. Have you seen the tee shirts they are wearing? Rather be Russian than Democrat, or something to that effect. Even if Mueller and other state prosecutors indict more people, come out with evidence that the Trump administration is full of criminals and traitors, as Orin Hatch said, it doesn't matter.
In the words of Auntie Maxine, Trump deserves to be impeached, if the Senate Republicans want to protect a traitorous, sexually perverse, criminal, so be it. It is the Constitutional duty of Democrats to impeach Donald Trump for high crimes and misdemeanors.
erronis
(15,328 posts)and are doing it for their own self-interest ($$$/?) or self-preservation (kompromat?). Some of them will probably say "some of my best friends are Democrats" altho I couldn't see how that would be reciprocated.
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)They don't know any better They are ignorant, and especially deficient in social and emotional intelligence.
They make and laugh uproariously at off-color jokes about race, religion, orientation, etc.
They operate on the basis of stereotypes, having no real experience with people different.
They ridicule the poorest of the poor, the weakest, the most downtrodden, even ridicule empathy itself!
They are defensive and prone to resorting to conflict or violence when upset by or fearing something.
The list could go on. This is their character. In short, they are primitive, most certainly knuckle draggers.
trev
(1,480 posts)The GOP has been a criminal organization since at least the Nixon era. I say this as someone who lived through the Nixon era.
The Republican Party for 45 years has been nothing but a power-hungry, democracy-be-damned organization. Eisenhower--a Republican--warned us of this with his "military-industrial complex" speech. War and business are the true focus of the GOP, the sole recipients of Republican beneficence. Republicans worship money. Democrats worship freedom.
The only true answer to today's situation is to take the Republican Party out of power forever.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)But I think they have a lot more on him and his son if he does anything like Manafort did, and he'll pay dearly down the road for it. trump knew all along what Flynn was up to, and selling policies and influence for trump to profit from with Flynn's help. Flynn was committing acts of treason against this country with trumps blessings, and he could face even worse charges if he's not careful.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)are what drive the conservanazis. They don't care about democracy.
Power and profit is what drives them. They will use anyone or anything to achieve those goals. Even the enemies of the state.
You have it exactly.
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)They should lose that right.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)..but, for clarification and understanding, it seemed appropriate for the post to refer to General Flynn. How far the mighty have fallen...
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)But, if convicted, they may change their story?
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)We always knew Sally Yates would be vindicated. She saw right through Flynn. She took her concerns to the WH and what happened ? They forced HER out. That's when I knew we were in serious trouble.