Bombshell- Michael Flynn proposed a sanctions relief deal to Russians BEFORE the 2016 election

[KelleyKramer]

Did Michael Flynn Try to Strike a Grand Bargain With Moscow as It Attacked the 2016 Election?

His associates say he claimed he was in contact with the Russian ambassador during the campaign.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/michael-flynn-contacts-russia-campaign-robert-mueller/


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In early December, special counsel Robert Mueller, in preparation for the upcoming sentencing of Michael Flynn, submitted two memos outlining his recommended punishment for President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser. The documents noted that Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, deserved no prison time for his felony because he had provided “substantial assistance” to Mueller’s investigation and several other ongoing criminal probes. And one of the memos tantalizingly noted that Flynn had aided Mueller’s “investigation concerning any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald J Trump.” The memo does not specify what information Flynn provided on this topic, but perhaps he told Mueller about the Russian contacts of a key Trump campaign official: himself.


In February 2017, the Washington Post reported that Flynn had “a series of contacts” with Russia’s then-ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak, in 2016 that “began before the Nov. 8 election and continued during the transition.” Kislyak confirmed to the Post that he had communicated with Flynn by text, phone, and in person. But that article—and much of the Flynn coverage—focused on Flynn’s post-election contacts with Kislyak, conversations that he lied about to the FBI and that led to his indictment. There has been no public information, via the Mueller investigation or other sources, regarding Flynn’s interactions with Kislyak during the 2016 campaign when he was Trump’s top adviser on national security matters.

Yet two Flynn associates tell Mother Jones that Flynn has informed friends and colleagues that prior to Election Day he spoke with Kislyak about how Trump could work productively with Russia if he won the presidency. One of these Flynn associates, who each asked not to be identified, notes that Flynn said he discussed with Kislyak a grand bargain in which Moscow would cooperate with the Trump administration to resolve the Syrian conflict and Washington would end or ease up on the sanctions imposed on Russia for its annexation of Crimea and military intervention in Ukraine. The other Flynn associate says Flynn said he had been talking to Kislyak about Syria, Iran, and other foreign policy matters that Russia and the United States could tackle together were Trump to be elected. A third Flynn associate recalls that shortly after the election, Flynn told him he had been in contact with Kislyak about Syria—but without stating whether that was before or after Election Day.

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Had Flynn privately met or communicated with Kislyak during the summer or fall, it would mean Trump’s chief national security aide was secretly interacting with the representative of a foreign power as that government was mounting information and cyber warfare against the United States. Such an interaction could signal to the Vladimir Putin regime that Trump didn’t mind the Kremlin’s interference in the election and would be willing to work with Moscow despite its efforts to subvert the US election. And if Flynn held such conversations with the Russian ambassador, this could have bolstered the Kremlin’s preference for Trump over Hillary Clinton and provided Moscow with further incentive for intervening in the 2016 campaign to assist Trump—especially if there was any talk of a sanctions-for-Syria deal or other policy aims desired by Putin. (Then-Sen. Jeff Sessions, a top Republican supporting Trump, met with Kislyak at least twice in 2016, including in September in his Senate office.)


Much more on the link-

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/michael-flynn-contacts-russia-campaign-robert-mueller/


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[manor321]

1. It's a very important article, but it is from last Thursday

[Squinch]

11. Its news to me. The way the bombshells come out three and four

each day, I think we all need some leeway.

[pangaia]

18. Frankly, I am tired of the phrases BOMBSHELL, BREAKING, YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS,

etc etc etc..

[Squinch]

21. I'm not. Usually, they're warranted. The fact that they are coming so fast and furious is simply

the sign of the times we live in.

[PJMcK]

26. etc. is no fun, either

(wink)

[MartyTheGreek]

20. Agree but, was this timed to preempt Flynn's claim on Friday?

...when he said that he was not "warned that he was lying to feds yada, yada..." Reports are now saying that Flynn was reaching out, aiming for a possible pardon by Trump.

Did I read that right... Was Mother Jones' David Corn saying that these earlier Rusky contacts have not been published before this article?

[lindysalsagal]

2. Off to the greatest page! The smoking gun, the bullet: TREASON!

Aiding another country. Right. Prison. Done. Goodnight. No wonder they sealed the intire floor.

[oasis]

3. traitor!

[no_hypocrisy]

4. This is just like the Reagan campaign negotiating with Iran and the Ayatollah in 1980

to hold the hostages until after the election. Actually literally while Reagan was sworn into office.

[KelleyKramer]

9. Yep! And Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks before the 1968 election

The treason runs long and deep in the Republican party

[tetedur]

10. And this is just like Nixon negotiating with North Vietnam in 1968

to delay peace talks until after the election.

[KelleyKramer]

24. Wow, we both replied and said the same thing at exactly the same time!

Ok, you know what they say about great minds, right? Lol!

[pangaia]

19. Bushes, Smedley, FDR.. it goes back a LONG way..

[empedocles]

27. Historical perspective. Important.

[Ponietz]

5. Meanwhile, 'ain't chicken salad' NPR releases:

[link:https://www.npr.org/2018/12/15/676765398/the-russia-investigations-a-case-still-unproven|

This is another reason we can’t cut deals with these ratfucking, gaslighting traitors. Media that have enabled this catastrophe must be force-fed some strong medicine.

[Lonestarblue]

22. NPR article brings up interesting questions.

Now that NPR relies more on corporate donors, they usually soft pedal any negative information. However, the article does remind me of questions I have about the Russia investigation. So far, the people who have pled guilty were indicted only for lying to the FBI. In Michael Flynn’s case especially, why was he not also indicted for conspiring with a foreign government to influence an election?

The right-wing pundits keep saying that the investigation is a nothing burger because they’re just guilty of lying. But Flynn especially seems to have violated the Logan Act at a minimum. Why would Mueller not indict him for this?

[Ponietz]

25. The national security implications are horrifying

It appears DOJ, FBI, CIA, et al., want to know whether we can do this without revealing sources and methods, without airing every embarrassing and compromising detail, without a direct confrontation with Putin that could lead to war.

As you write, so much is already within the public domain. It is there for anyone who wants to see it. NPR keeps its head in the sand and makes that direct confrontation all the more likely.

[benbenson]

6. The saga continues...

Good post. We need help in collating all these facts. Please take a look at www.trumparchive.com . We just got started, but our goal is to collect the facts, rank them by significance, put them on a timeline and group them into collections.

Please let me know if anyone is interested in joining the cause.

[Sanity Claws]

8. I was unaware of the project

Can you post this as an Opening Post so more people can learn of the project and join?

[Squinch]

12. Working 2 jobs so I can't volunteer, but God, I'm glad you are on it.

Thank you.

[lastlib]

16. Another good source: The Moscow Project

https://themoscowproject.org/

[hexola]

7. I always wondered if the Obama's pre-election sanctions were a dog whistle to conspirators

Those sanctions had to be somewhat targeted to Trump allied Russians - and got all the Trump people talking and reassuring the Russians...by then people were paying attention to who was talking to who.

[MaryMagdaline]

13. Yes. He laid a trap for the traitors

[KCDebbie]

14. He did this as a civilian and as advisor to a not yet elected

Administration!

As far as I am concerned, it was TREASON!

[rockfordfile]

15. Flynn was clearly doing trump's work

[watoos]

17. Ah, that's the key isn't it?

[Takket]

23. The lifting of sanctions in return for election help

Is the heart of the conspiracy against the US committed by drumpf. This is the big one that will lead to impeachment. All the financial and obstruction stuff is just icing on the cake.