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still_one

(92,372 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:23 PM Dec 2018

Will Glenn GreenWald, Matt Taibbi, and Jill Stein finally come out and admiit they were wrong about

a Russian connection? That this was NOT an example of McCarthyism, mass hysteria speculation about Russian involvement, or a red herring?

Matt Taibbi's argument was that because we were lied to about the WMDs in Iraq. that implies the Russian involvement must not be true. The two events not only have nothing to do with each other, the agencies and people involved in those different events were not the same.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-110164/

I am not going to hold my breath, but it would be refreshing to see if at least the journalists in that group admitted an error in their initial analysis of the situation






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Will Glenn GreenWald, Matt Taibbi, and Jill Stein finally come out and admiit they were wrong about (Original Post) still_one Dec 2018 OP
Nope, because at least two out of three of them are Russian assets. (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2018 #1
+1 Freethinker65 Dec 2018 #2
I agree. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #5
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2018 #13
:) Yup. And because they're never really wrong, Hortensis Dec 2018 #31
I don't think you understand it zipplewrath Dec 2018 #3
None of the three are objective thinkers on this issue. marylandblue Dec 2018 #6
Well that's true zipplewrath Dec 2018 #15
I understand perfectly well where they came from. Out of the three, Matt Taibbi is probably the still_one Dec 2018 #10
Jill Stein, at least, comes from Putin's table. dawg day Dec 2018 #27
No way in hell. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #4
No. Iliyah Dec 2018 #7
Opinions. Snackshack Dec 2018 #8
Taibbi is the only one in that list I can see admit a misjudgement. He might have already done so still_one Dec 2018 #11
No. Collectively they're a hot mess. JHan Dec 2018 #9
Shite NO.. that would be facing Cha Dec 2018 #12
I didn't realize Van Jones suggested that. still_one Dec 2018 #21
I wasn't Cha Dec 2018 #22
I appreciate it, and agree. No excuse for that s**t still_one Dec 2018 #23
I ass-ume Putin has kompromat on both Stein And Greenwald. emulatorloo Dec 2018 #14
Taibbi has done some good work, and if anyone, he would admit an error. I don't see the others still_one Dec 2018 #20
The other two won't. calimary Dec 2018 #26
Two out of the three are scam artists. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #16
I agree with your assessment still_one Dec 2018 #19
Good luck w/that. oasis Dec 2018 #17
And bite the hand that feeds 2 of the 3. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #18
Taibbi might Recursion Dec 2018 #24
As I believe they are still counting their paychecks/honoraria/bribes/gifts... Hekate Dec 2018 #25
Speaking of Greenwald, I've been wondering if Snowden still thinks the Obama admin. was so terrible. betsuni Dec 2018 #28
Matt Taibbi has a little bit of an ego but not to the unhealthy point that Greenwald or Stein have. phleshdef Dec 2018 #29
Of the three, Taibbi still needs a general following to generate revenue... herding cats Dec 2018 #30

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. :) Yup. And because they're never really wrong,
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:07 AM
Dec 2018

everyone else is. They are the wise ones. Thomas Jefferson felt strongly that completely ignoring their counterparts who flocked to power in his day was the only sensible way to handle the problem. The Kremlin of course puts their dysfunction to use and I suspect finds most pretty easy pickings.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
10. I understand perfectly well where they came from. Out of the three, Matt Taibbi is probably the
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:12 PM
Dec 2018

only one who would admit a error, and might have already. As for Stein and Greenwald, absolutely not. Geenwald's ego, and know it all attitude absolutely shock me if he did. He is a grandstander


dawg day

(7,947 posts)
27. Jill Stein, at least, comes from Putin's table.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:21 AM
Dec 2018

Remember, she went there on a paid trip courtesy of the Russians.

Here's a picture of the head table-- Stein and Michael Flynn, Putin, Dmitry Peskov.

I don't know why anyone would believe Jill Stein about Russia.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
8. Opinions.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:01 PM
Dec 2018

Everyone has them for better or worse.

I like Matt Taibbi’s writing. I don’t always agree but it provides a differing POV. I will give him credit for his coverage of the 2008 financial catastrophe. “Griftopia” & “The Divide- American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap” are good reads, frustrating due to the subject but good reads. Plus his very apt “Vampire Squid” description of Goldman Sach is beautiful and one I will never forget.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
11. Taibbi is the only one in that list I can see admit a misjudgement. He might have already done so
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:15 PM
Dec 2018

for all I know, and I may have missed it.

and your right, his coverage of the 2008 financial implossion was well done




Cha

(297,567 posts)
12. Shite NO.. that would be facing
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:18 PM
Dec 2018

up to the truth.. and that's something they're not capable of. Doesn't fit their agenda. They got their fans and I guess that's enough for them.

Can't forget susan Lying her head OFF sarand0n.



My message to Van Jones.. No, I would Never "consider jill" stein's LIES. But, no thanks for pushing that BullShit.

emulatorloo

(44,175 posts)
14. I ass-ume Putin has kompromat on both Stein And Greenwald.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:30 PM
Dec 2018

Who knows about Taibbi? Has done some good work. OTOH There was that book he co-wrote about his time in Russia. Harassing Russian female employees.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
20. Taibbi has done some good work, and if anyone, he would admit an error. I don't see the others
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 AM
Dec 2018

doing that

calimary

(81,441 posts)
26. The other two won't.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:00 AM
Dec 2018

I doubt they think they’ve done anything wrong. Judging from their smug self-satisfied behavior I’ve observed, anyway.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
16. Two out of the three are scam artists.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:55 PM
Dec 2018

Snake oil salespersons who pander to groups who are easily led around by their noses. People who want their imagined beliefs confirmed. Easy marks.

Two of the three weren’t necessarily wrong, they were lying to idiots.

Sorry for using such a harsh tone. The Green Party I once loved(never voted for a GP candidate) is dead and Greenwald abuses his responsibility after becoming famous off the back of others.

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
25. As I believe they are still counting their paychecks/honoraria/bribes/gifts...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:42 AM
Dec 2018

...I expect to hear nothing from any of them.

betsuni

(25,606 posts)
28. Speaking of Greenwald, I've been wondering if Snowden still thinks the Obama admin. was so terrible.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:25 AM
Dec 2018

People who believe Republican and Democratic administrations are the same give me a headache.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
29. Matt Taibbi has a little bit of an ego but not to the unhealthy point that Greenwald or Stein have.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:33 AM
Dec 2018

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
30. Of the three, Taibbi still needs a general following to generate revenue...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:02 AM
Dec 2018

I, also, think he hopes to re-emerge as a contrite white Knight at this moment. That is, until he thinks he has another angle to sell. Trust me, he'll find one. He's a career building person. I know them, and he's looking constantly for his next sensation to sell. This is based on my readings of him, but I admit my eye has been jaundiced. As such, YMMV.

The other two are locked in at the moment in their paychecks, which are based on extremists and foreign entities and as they say, follow the money.

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