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Trump Moves to Deport Vietnam War Refugees
The White House again wants to expel certain groups of protected immigrants, a reversal after backing away from the policy months ago.
Charles Dunst
Krishnadev Calamur
2:14 PM ET
Updated at 4:22 p.m.
The Trump administration is resuming its efforts to deport certain protected Vietnamese immigrants who have lived in the United States for decadesmany of them having fled the country during the Vietnam War.
This is the latest move in the presidents long record of prioritizing harsh immigration and asylum restrictions, and one thats sure to raise eyebrowsthe White House had hesitantly backed off the plan in August before reversing course. In essence, the administration has now decided that Vietnamese immigrants who arrived in the country before the establishment of diplomatic ties between the United States and Vietnam are subject to standard immigration lawmeaning they are all eligible for deportation.
The new stance mirrors White House efforts to clamp down on immigration writ large, a frequent complaint of the presidents on the campaign trail and one he links to a litany of ills in the United States.
The administration last year began pursuing the deportation of many long-term immigrants from Vietnam, Cambodia, and other countries who the administration alleges are violent criminal aliens. But Washington and Hanoi have a unique 2008 agreement that specifically bars the deportation of Vietnamese people who arrived in the United States before July 12, 1995the date the two former foes reestablished diplomatic relations following the Vietnam War.
The White House unilaterally reinterpreted the agreement in the spring of 2017 to exempt people convicted of crimes from its protections, allowing the administration to send back a small number of pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants, a policy it retreated from this past August. Last week, however, a spokesperson for the U.S. embassy in Hanoi said the American government was again reversing course.
Washington now believes that the 2008 agreement fails to protect pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants from deportation, the spokesperson, who asked not to be identified by name because of embassy procedures, told The Atlantic.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/12/donald-trump-deport-vietnam-war-refugees/577993/
riversedge
(70,299 posts)..............The Trump administrations move reflects an entirely new reading of the agreement, according to Ted Osius, who served as the United States ambassador to Vietnam from December 2014 through October 2018. Osius said that while he was in office, the 2008 agreement was accepted by all involved parties as banning the deportation of all pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants.
We understood that the agreement barred the deportation of pre-1995 Vietnamese. Both governmentsand the Vietnamese-American communityinterpreted it that way, Osius told The Atlantic in an email. The State Department, he added, had explained this to both the White House and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.
News of the Trump administrations renewed hard line quickly made the rounds on Vietnamese American social media, with advocacy groups warning of potentially increased deportations.
Forty-three years ago, a lot of the Southeast Asian communities and Vietnamese communities fled their countries and their homeland due to the war, which the U.S. was involved in, fleeing for their safety and the safety of their families, said Kevin Lam, the organizing director of the Asian American Resource Workshop, an advocacy group. The U.S. would do well to remember that.
enough
(13,262 posts)A sadistic administration.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)that he definitely has narcissistic, sociopathic and sadistic personality disorders.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)they have had the power all this time to reign him in but have refused to which means they clearly support him in this.
mn9driver
(4,428 posts)Trump is a very sick individual, surrounded by sick individuals.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)America would be better off and Trump and his buddy Vlad would like it too.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)The first thing Vlad would do is serve him polonium tea.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
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calimary
(81,466 posts)Who knows, donald - they might give you your own wing!
erronis
(15,328 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Moral Compass
(1,525 posts)Trump and his minions seem to delight in caprice and cruelty. This looks to be something that sprang from the twisted mind of Stephen Miller. It stinks of him.
Every day is brings a new evil.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)TygrBright
(20,763 posts)Solly Mack
(90,785 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)For God's sake?
babylonsister
(171,090 posts)Johonny
(20,888 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)onetexan
(13,058 posts)this guy has no empathy whatsoever. He's a sociopath.
elmac
(4,642 posts)fighting the coming blue wave to do much more damage.
lilactime
(657 posts)There is no limit to his monstrosity.
ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)Every day you think there's no lower that this administration can go yet they just find a way to go lower and lower.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)The repukes in congress sure as hell won't as they are scared shitless of Trump's redneck base.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I hope he can't do this. Unconscionable. Some of those people helped the Americans over there. They would have been killed, if htey had stayed. As it is, we left some of them behind, who were surely killed. Trump has no idea of our country's history.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)About 30 years ago, when I was working at a large financial company, we had a Vietnamese boat person who worked in our mail room. He was such a hard worker and so happy to be here. Every day he had a smile on his face and everyone loved him. I always wondered about him after I left for another job. Those people had come through so much and finally found some peace in their lives. And now this vicious bastard wants to yank the rug out from under them and destroy everything they have built for themselves in this country as Americans.
FUCK YOU Donald Trump, you disgusting piece of shit!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)This is yet another outrageous, cruel thing.
I hope he's just saying this to rev us his hateful base.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)A 2008 agreement was pre-Obama. He just hates a brown people.
orangecrush
(19,617 posts)dlk
(11,576 posts)Like most bullies, when someone stands up to him, he bitterly picks another victim to abuse.
AllyCat
(16,222 posts)So, as I stated elsewhere and cant find, he is going to take it out on someone who cannot protect themselves?
Tre45on is an asshole.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)He's on a mission of destruction. There is no sense to this; it protects no one and causes needless and unwarranted suffering. It may be just another piece of red meat thrown to his evil base, but this feels like something more.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)aggiesal
(8,923 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Their kids, not so much, their grandkids, even less.
turbinetree
(24,720 posts)us in that fucked up war, and if they go back..................well they are fucked.....................but all he does his look for a deflection from his crimes and his treason......................and as for Stephen Miller................he and his treasonous boss really can go fuck themselves....................your pissed off because your criminal gang lost California, where most Vietnamese live..........................you really are a vindictive POS..........................
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/vietnamese-immigrants-united-states-5
November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough..........................
Freethinker65
(10,048 posts)Then let them stay and deport Trump and his spawn just for kicks.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)Vietnamese-Amrerican citizens tend to vote conservative.
Please correct me I'm wrong.
https://medium.com/@lucyha93/us-presidential-elections-voices-of-vietnamese-voters-in-new-york-city-dbb8a36cfc86
Now they might be deported?
IQ45 is going to go down in history as one of the racist pResident we've ever had.
onetexan
(13,058 posts)Starting in the late 70's and thereafter, the GOP pushed to sign up vietnamese voters. After the fall of Saigon President Ford was a Republican president who enacted legislation to receive Viet refugees. This combined with the fact Senator Mccain was hugely popular among the Vietnamese, having been a POW during his service, and the fact a large number of Vietnamese are Catholic/Christian and tend to be conservative in their views, led the older generation to lean Republican.
That said, the younger generations tend to lean left. This latest move by the Idiot will force many to reconsider their vote in the next general election.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,592 posts)Everything they owned was stacked about chest high on a pallet.
Donald Trump makes Hitler look like a choir boy. I have never met anybody in my life who is as detestable.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)with immidiate injunction
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)Sorry I'm commenting without reading the whole thread. People should be in the streets about this. OMG!
mysteryowl
(7,396 posts)Why would this even occur to someone as "a thing to do"? How would anyone even think this up?
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)he gets his ideas from the comments section of breitbart
mysteryowl
(7,396 posts)Impeach this administration now!
leanforward
(1,077 posts)NO, he does not know S**t.
Does he not understand the anguish he's causing these citizens.
THEY helped us.
UTUSN
(70,740 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,861 posts)So HE BEST make up his mind what he wants to do, so lawyers can start their Law suits...