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Washington Post:A number of contacts said that they had been ghosted, a situation in which a worker stops coming to work without notice and then is impossible to contact, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago noted in Decembers Beige Book, which tracks employment trends.
National data on economic ghosting is lacking. The term, which normally applies to dating, first surfaced on Dictionary.com in 2016. But companies across the country say silent exits are on the rise.
Analysts blame Americas increasingly tight labor market. Job openings have surpassed the number of seekers for eight straight months, and the unemployment rate has clung to a 49-year low of 3.7 percent since September.
Perhaps they don't feel loyal to their employer for some reason...
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)ya think?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and where its coming from..
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Let me know how that works out.
we can do it
(12,193 posts)Goes both ways. They want to fire with no reason or notice.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)mitch96
(13,924 posts)I,my self have done it a few times.. If the employer says one thing and they after a week of employment I saw it was total bullshit.. .I'm gone. If they lie to me why should I give them the respect of a notice..
Then again that was when jobs in my field were plentiful... When prospective employers would ask about the laps in employment I would just say I was in school... They all bought it. Not a lie either.. I "learned" what bullshit the previous employer was and would "educate" others about it...
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blaze
(6,373 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,852 posts)My guess is that they ghosted employers they wouldnt put on their resume. A lot of new graduates are seriously underemployed
JenniferJuniper
(4,515 posts)Good or bad. Afraid they'll be sued for slander.
Quemado
(1,262 posts)A lot of them will only verify dates of employment. Nothing else.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)On the other hand if you hate your job that badly chances are you know you wont get a decent reference.
This is what happens to asshole bosses and jobs, not to good ones.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)even at corporate level, the only thing that is verified is pay level, and actual work dates..
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)or even give them. Legally a lot them just say worked here from this to this and thats it.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)References don't matter for those types of jobs, which are increasingly taking over the labor market.
When I graduated from college in the early 1980s I got a job as a server in a hotel restaurant. My schedule was posted a week in advance, I got to work 40 hours a week, and I got benefits. I got employer-paid health insurance! As a restaurant worker.
Those jobs are gone. Even the managers who run restaurants now aren't given regular schedules, full-time work, or benefits.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Most companies' HR and legal departments only let you confirm dates of employment nowadays. It makes hiring more irritating, but I get how we got there.
underpants
(182,877 posts)Thanks
FSogol
(45,525 posts)FSogol
(45,525 posts)What companies sow, they will reap.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)There are enough jobs where you have to clear up various responsibilities such that you aren't liable for some future problem. You don't "ghost" your way out of those.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)younger folks simply feel little loyalty towards employers these days and why should they? Manufacturing is rough and some simply don't like it...and the overtime involved or the stress.
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)"They cut payroll, increased their dividend to their shareholders, smart business move! Good on them." Not mentioned: The former employees now looking for jobs that will almost surely pay them less, and starting out from rock bottom on health insurance, paid time off, and seniority. If the workers are mentioned at all, their layoffs are really their own fault, and they should get more education and better training (though how that's to be paid for is left unsaid).
But when workers make a similar economic calculation and shed a dead-end job, the business pages and shows are all a-fret about ungrateful, disloyal employees and the bind they put their poor employers in. There's never a word breathed about employers cleaning up their act, treating workers with respect, and paying them a living wage.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Well said!
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)They are worried about people walking out with industry "secrets" and property. Moments after you send your notice via email your boss and the guard shows up to provide escort while you pack your shit and leave.
It's kinda nice in a way because as soon as you find another job you don't have to worry about sticking around to leave on decent terms.
Aristus
(66,462 posts)How does that sound, employers?
Not as fun for you as "Right To Work", I imagine. But that wasn't any fun for your employees.
Time for a little payback...
TeamPooka
(24,254 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)My son left his last job a month ago. (He gave 2 weeks notice.) Since then he got the 2 week lag pay, then after auditing he got his unused vacation, then because of a contract settlement he got back pay from two years ago. For about a month he'll be collecting two checks.
(Son if you're reading this, save your money and move out of the house.)
KPN
(15,650 posts)I can relate to that!
KPN
(15,650 posts)ck4829
(35,091 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 13, 2018, 06:53 AM - Edit history (1)
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,431 posts)RandySF
(59,221 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)About 20 years ago, I went through a period of working for three employers in a short period of time (two years), and had numerous job interviews. It was then that I learned through experience, generally speaking, employers do not care one bit about employees. There are exceptions. Employers who care about their employees are in the minority.
It is in your (the employee) best interest not to give notice. One exception would be, if the employer respected you, then, and only then, would you even consider giving notice to the employer. If the employer was anything less than respectful, you owe that employer nothing, let alone notice of leaving.
If you are planning to leave a job, do not tell anyone, even trusted co-workers.
If you give notice, several negative things can happen. Once you tell an employer that you are leaving, the employer considers you to be yesterday's news. You've lost value in his or her eyes. If the employer did not like you, the employer might even try to sabotage your next job by contacting the future employer and tell them things that are not true about you.
If you give notice, the employer might try to retain your services by counter-offering your future employer's offer. You should never accept the counter-offer because the current employer is not really trying to retain you; he or she is trying to manage your departure.
IMO, the best way to handle your departure from a place of employment is to act every day as if nothing is different all the up to the last day. Two hours prior to the end of you last day, submit your signed letter of resignation to your supervisor. Two hours should be sufficient for your supervisor to out-process you (collecting keys, etc.).
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Worked for a discount retailer based in Ohio for two years. First year was wonderful but they brought in a new district manager who slashed hours to the bone. I was the front end supervisor and only averaged 16-20 hours a week. Waited until the end of my shift on my two anniversary then I left my uniform shirts on the break room table, blocked the stores number in my phone, quietly walked out and never looked back.