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Nothing pisses me off more than people saying Democrats need to grow a spine.
That was just said about Schumer in the Oval Office today. He should have been more forceful and direct. I disagree, he played the part well. Nancy attacked and Chuck sat there chuckling and refusing to make eye contact. It was a magnifiecent display of disrespect to the pResident of the United States and that humiliation enraged the man.
Well played Pelosi and Schumer, well played.
msongs
(67,441 posts)kacekwl
(7,021 posts)laugh much.
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)He couldn't push himself further away from trump in that chair. Lol...then he dozed off.
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)that pretty much sums it up.
Nobody laughs at the boss. At that meeting, you saw who true leaders are and how they act. Trump is not a leader. At best, he is a bad boss, always barking orders and slamming anybody who dares criticize him.
Pelosi is a leader, and she doesn't get de-railed by petty shit when she has a mission. With 5 kids of her own and a houseful of grandkids, she knows how to handle bratty little snots like Trump.
His base will say how much they love him, but they don't know what love is. Trump got owned, on live TV, and acted like the spoiled brat he basically is.
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)His base will say how much they love him, but they don't know what love is. Trump got owned, on live TV, and acted like the spoiled brat he basically is.
^^THIS^^
littlemissmartypants
(22,797 posts)The P grabber got pwned by a woman. Delicious.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)Schumer did exactly what he needed to. They both knew 45 couldn't handle Pelosi going after him and he'd turn to the 'man'. Schumer played right into that and reeled him right in.
Brilliant.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)He wouldnt so much as face Pelosi the entire time.
And Chuck got Trump to own that looming shut down like a boss. Trump swallowed hook, line, and sinker. Masterful.
nini
(16,672 posts)and clueless.
It was a thing of beauty.
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)No spine my ass! It was brilliant. They got dumpie so riled up he said HE ALONE WOULD SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT. He owns it now.
Brava and Bravo.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)his response was like if I don't get my wall I will shut down the government. What a vindictive POS he is, it's all about him isn't it?
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts). . .i think "orchestrated" is overstated.
It was the idiot's idea to bring in live cameras. Pelosi and Schumer didn't arrange that.
They played him like a fiddle once the thing got rolling, but they didn't write the score for that pathetic little opera PINO put on.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Even more impressive.
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)Just letting "it" riff and paint himself as the cartoon villain was superb.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)That constant smirk at Trumps temper tantrum, calling him out as a liar. Having to brag that he won North Dakota and Indiana was funny in itself.
Then letting Trump rant about owning the shut down after Nancy pushed him on not having the votes was the show I have been waiting for. Trump came unglued, had a temper tantrum for all to see.
Trump is imploding as his many dirty deeds come to light.
Donny Deutsch said it best that the investigations will not end. Trump has destroyed his brand that he built on lies, cheating people. The House of cards is coming down.
mcar
(42,372 posts)I agree 100%.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)They resisted falling into the trap of playing Trump's silly games.
So I agree.
And it was reported that Trump was enraged about his coverage.
betsuni
(25,615 posts)on "centrists." They are pushing "the spineless center" who have to be "watched like hawks" or else they'll cave to Republicans. And on and on about how weak Pelosi and Schumer are totally going to shove money at Trump to build the wall, they just KNOW IT.
They never tire of being wrong!
peggysue2
(10,839 posts)And Nancy Pelosi inspired it by pushing back, refusing to be diminished by Trumpski. Together they made Trumpski look arrogant, belligerent and uninformed. Same old, same old but in front of the press and for the world to see and hear. Again.
Reportedly, the sad little man felt he was setup when it was his idea to have the press in attendance. For transparency's sake. LOL. The whole thing backfired on him; he was transparently revealed.
Mr. Cellophane Man.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall inside the White House tonight!
littlemissmartypants
(22,797 posts)And Recommended.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)"More forceful and direct"?!?
Schumer was the one goading Trump to get madder. Then when Trump would turn to Nancy, who was cool and factual, he was still cranked up and really sounded brat-like. Nancy kept explaining how government works. Chuck with the Pinochios, shutdown (louder), "Right now!" (louder), interruption, (louder), (interrupts Trumpy). Back to Nancy -- calm, "Article I", interrupted, loud, back to Chuck -- higher and higher.
It was tag-team beauty.
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George II
(67,782 posts)...any day.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)he had two top Legislature officials in his office and he treated it like a fucking reality show. He showed Nancy Pelosi no respect, he is a POS.
Plus it totally backfired on him. I hope his anger consumes him.
kag
(4,079 posts)Misogynistic bastard! He couldn't have been more disrespectful to SPEAKER Polosi. I kept wanting to hear her say, "Calm down, Donald. You'll start sweating and the cameras are here."
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)he puts in his hair will start coming out. That is why he probably doesn't like to get his hair wet, he has his own "golden showers".
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)and then behave like an ass and shout Trump down.
We still have a long way to go when so many people believe that belligerent bellicosity = strength, and loud coarseness = toughness, and quiet dignity = weakness
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)spanone
(135,873 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It looked to me like the two of them had decided who would take the lead, or maybe it was Trump who decided he'd zero in on. But Pelosi was the focus of Trump.
Schumer is a tad weak for a leader of a political party, IMO. But I don't think he was at the meeting, necessarily. I didn't notice him much, frankly. But he was fine. He did no harm and did say a couple of things. I loved the way he looked at the camera and smiled.
Yeah...I think the two of them decided beforehand that Pelosi would be front and center, for whatever reason. Maybe just because Trump finds her more irritating than Schumer. Maybe because Trump's main concern was getting House votes for the wall. Who knows. It was a good meeting, though.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Nancy was giving Trump the Mom Lecture (and look) while Chuck was trying to hold the guffaws in as he mocked him for bragging about the Senate. Chuck called Trump a liar on live TV; I don't know what more people want. They were a beautiful tag team.
samnsara
(17,635 posts)..in volume and his little digs and smirks. I sense a bulldog inside he has to keep tethered.
Aristus
(66,462 posts)They both did exceptionally well.
shanny
(6,709 posts)that tRump only needs 10 Democratic votes in the Senate because he didn't get any money from Mexico.
murielm99
(30,761 posts)on Sesame Street. I don't mean this in a bad or silly way. The Count is my husband's favorite Sesame Street character. And my husband is no dumbbell. He majored in economics and history and did quite well. He started appreciating The Count thirty years ago, when we began watching Sesame Street with our children.
Schumer is smart. Trump is not. Schumer did what he was supposed to do. Thank you for this post, sheshe.
watoos
(7,142 posts)but Schumer got under Trump's skin about the shutdown and got Trump to own it. What's to complain about?
United we stand, divided we fall.
Great job Nancy and Chuck, as Donnie called them.
randr
(12,414 posts)Here is a shining example of Democrats in need of spines.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211545443