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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 03:48 PM Dec 2018

Florida Gots Them Palmetto Bugs.

Other places gots them cockroaches.

In California, people gots these:



Jerusalem Crickets or as some call 'em "Potato Bugs."

They's bigguns. Some up to 3" long, with they beady eyes and they sharp jaws, like.

In Mexico, they gots 'em too. There, they call them Niñas de la Tierra (Children of the Earth).

The first time my wife, recently moved from Minnesota to California, saw one, she screamed and I came running. I picked it up, put it on the palm of my hand and let her have a good look at it while I told her all about it. After that, they resumed their wanderings in the house without causing alarm. The cats liked to bat them around, but never bit one after the first time. Those orange and black stripes say, "I taste terrible. Leave me alone, please."

They can bite, and have a pretty good pinch, but otherwise they're harmless. They eat decaying vegetation and harm nothing.

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Florida Gots Them Palmetto Bugs. (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2018 OP
I wasn't a-skeered of much when I was a kid... Cirque du So-What Dec 2018 #1
Those are really pretty, but sting very painfully. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3
Here's a giant wasp from California. Fairly rare to see, MineralMan Dec 2018 #6
I see the stinger Cirque du So-What Dec 2018 #7
That one's dead. MineralMan Dec 2018 #8
One of these zapped me Cirque du So-What Dec 2018 #14
Yikes! Those are big. I think I saw one this Summer. MineralMan Dec 2018 #17
I woulda moved on too if I'da seen it beforehand Cirque du So-What Dec 2018 #20
I came home from work one night, years ago The Genealogist Dec 2018 #53
Yikes! frogmarch Dec 2018 #60
I think Schmidt has gotten himself stung (voluntarily) by just about every insect there is hatrack Dec 2018 #63
Wow, wonderful excerpt! frogmarch Dec 2018 #66
Yes, but even worse are the teensy weensy fire ants. cwydro Dec 2018 #11
"A" fire ant bite wouldn't be too bad SCantiGOP Dec 2018 #38
Yes! Little arsehats bite in unison! cwydro Dec 2018 #61
It can be serious SCantiGOP Dec 2018 #62
I got hit by one once. Worse sting of my life behind an Io moth caterpillar GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #21
I remember picking one of these up when I was a kid out in the woods hatrack Dec 2018 #67
Almost looks like a toy Watchfoxheadexplodes Dec 2018 #2
Yes, palmetto bugs are cockroaches. There are many species MineralMan Dec 2018 #5
Palmetto Bugs are usually associated with Florida SCantiGOP Dec 2018 #43
I love creepy crawlies of all kinds. Solly Mack Dec 2018 #4
I used to torture friends of mine in Florida by telling them I'd seen a palmetto bug nearby. cwydro Dec 2018 #9
I love praying mantis insects, too, although MineralMan Dec 2018 #10
Also in the Mantid family are Stick Insects MineralMan Dec 2018 #12
They're awesome. I've got lots of pictures of them on my fb. cwydro Dec 2018 #16
I handled them for hours as a kid Cirque du So-What Dec 2018 #22
Praying Mantis Snackshack Dec 2018 #55
LOL - At least potato bugs move slow!!!! LeftInTX Dec 2018 #13
I did wildlife rehab. Bears, mt. Lions, wolves, snakes, raptors... nolabear Dec 2018 #15
Lol. My best friend is like that. cwydro Dec 2018 #19
One thing I like about living in the PNW ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #18
Banana Slugs! MineralMan Dec 2018 #23
Slugs are cool ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #25
True, but they have plenty of slime. I don't like handling them. MineralMan Dec 2018 #27
No. ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #58
I read where some idiot in Australia ate a garden slug and the parasites it carried killed him. brewens Dec 2018 #34
Always makes me think of Vincent in "Pulp Fiction"... Moostache Dec 2018 #57
Anyone remember an episode MFM008 Dec 2018 #24
They might have been. MineralMan Dec 2018 #26
Holy shit! I remember that episode SCantiGOP Dec 2018 #40
What's wonderful is that YouTube has a clip of almost MineralMan Dec 2018 #42
Yikes. This thread is giving me the heebie jeebies. Laffy Kat Dec 2018 #28
Florida has mole crickets too HAB911 Dec 2018 #29
Cool, and with vestigial wings. MineralMan Dec 2018 #30
he/she's a beauty! handmade34 Dec 2018 #31
Wow! That's a beautiful insect! MineralMan Dec 2018 #32
aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #49
Wow!! What a photo! nt Codeine Dec 2018 #65
We had these Mormon Crickets break out here in north central Idaho about brewens Dec 2018 #33
"Just give a little whistle...." JenniferJuniper Dec 2018 #35
Once upon a time 2naSalit Dec 2018 #36
Oh, Ick! MineralMan Dec 2018 #37
Right!?! 2naSalit Dec 2018 #59
omfg. I would freak the fck out if I ever saw a Potato Bug ecstatic Dec 2018 #39
Anecdotal evidence suggests that they can chew through sheetrock. Adsos Letter Dec 2018 #41
Amazing. MineralMan Dec 2018 #45
From Floriduh, a vile insect soon to spread disease and destruction north. retread Dec 2018 #44
Ick! A bug! MineralMan Dec 2018 #46
i hate those things. UGH. Is that you touching one!! UGH UGH Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #47
No, but I routinely picked thekm up and MineralMan Dec 2018 #50
My house in WI has been invaded by stinkbugs this year Poiuyt Dec 2018 #48
The thing about palmetto bugs is mitch96 Dec 2018 #51
Florida girl here, I find nothing as horrifying as Palmetto bugs. dewsgirl Dec 2018 #52
Ugh...palmetto bugs! The Genealogist Dec 2018 #54
Ugh! I hate all insects! Especially the huge, ugly ones as shown above. smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #56
I won't lie, Codeine Dec 2018 #64
You're not alone in that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #68

Cirque du So-What

(25,962 posts)
1. I wasn't a-skeered of much when I was a kid...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 03:56 PM
Dec 2018

but I gave these suckers a wide berth when I encountered them.

Usually found near decaying wood & forest vegetation, these so-called 'cow killers' would raise my hackles just from the coloration alone.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
3. Those are really pretty, but sting very painfully.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:00 PM
Dec 2018

We had some of those in California, too. Several species with different colors. "Velvet Ants" is the generic name for them. All sting, so children soon learn to leave the pretty bugs alone.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
6. Here's a giant wasp from California. Fairly rare to see,
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:05 PM
Dec 2018

the Tarantula Hawk is enormous and has a very, very nasty sting:

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
8. That one's dead.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:09 PM
Dec 2018

You find Tarantula Hawks in desert and dry areas, where the tarantulas are. They prey on the big spiders. Occasionally, you'll find several of those large wasps around a milkweed plant. I don't know why. They're not aggressive toward humans, so you can get close and study them. They won't sting unless you physically bother them though.

Cirque du So-What

(25,962 posts)
14. One of these zapped me
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:20 PM
Dec 2018

The 'cicada killer' is a solitary wasp that builds underground nests. It usually doesn't bother people, but one apparently liked the smell of my underarm deodorant and lit on my shirt over my armpit. Not knowing it was there, I lowered my arm and ZAPPO! Instant excruciating pain that took me to the ground, followed by intense swelling that ran in a broad streak down my side. Made me wonder how the cicada doesn't die immediately.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
17. Yikes! Those are big. I think I saw one this Summer.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:22 PM
Dec 2018

It looked like a giant hornet and I moved on to another place real quick-like.

Cirque du So-What

(25,962 posts)
20. I woulda moved on too if I'da seen it beforehand
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:27 PM
Dec 2018

As it was, the sting was a complete surprise. My arm instintively flew up after the sting, and that's when I saw the poisonous bastage, who flew away quite leisurely. If I weren't temporarily incapacitated with pain, I woulda tried to smash the MFer.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
53. I came home from work one night, years ago
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:20 PM
Dec 2018

and found one of those in my house. Glad I didn't get stung trying to kill it.

frogmarch

(12,158 posts)
60. Yikes!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 08:02 PM
Dec 2018

from Wiki:

Tarantula hawk wasps are relatively docile and rarely sting without provocation. However, the sting—particularly that of P. grossa—is among the most painful of all insects, though the intense pain only lasts about five minutes.[8] One researcher described the pain as "...immediate, excruciating, unrelenting pain that simply shuts down one's ability to do anything, except scream. Mental discipline simply does not work in these situations."[5] In terms of scale, the wasp's sting is rated near the top of the Schmidt sting pain index, second only to that of the bullet ant, and is described by Schmidt as "blinding, fierce[, and] shockingly electric"


I hope Nebraska doesn't have those critters!

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
63. I think Schmidt has gotten himself stung (voluntarily) by just about every insect there is
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:48 PM
Dec 2018

He's a biologist and wanted to create a (necessarily subjective) pain scale.

Talking about scientific dedication!



https://www.sciencefriday.com/articles/why-you-dont-want-to-get-stung-by-a-tarantula-hawk/

frogmarch

(12,158 posts)
66. Wow, wonderful excerpt!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:12 PM
Dec 2018

I'm going to save it, and I am thinking of buying the book. Fascinating stuff!

Thanks!

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
38. "A" fire ant bite wouldn't be too bad
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:49 PM
Dec 2018

I read the first one that bites excretes a chemical that the others smell and immediately bite also. The encounters I have had always result in 5-15 bites.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
61. Yes! Little arsehats bite in unison!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 08:54 PM
Dec 2018

I react badly to any insect bite, so I swell up like a balloon. Grrr.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
62. It can be serious
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:43 PM
Dec 2018

I knew a girl years ago that got about 30 bites squatting in some bushes to pee at an outdoor music festival. She was in serious trouble when an ambulance got to her.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. I got hit by one once. Worse sting of my life behind an Io moth caterpillar
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:28 PM
Dec 2018

We called them Cow Ants or like you, cow killers.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
67. I remember picking one of these up when I was a kid out in the woods
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:45 AM
Dec 2018

More like an electric shock than a sting. Just . . . damn.

Won't make that mistake again.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
2. Almost looks like a toy
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 03:57 PM
Dec 2018

A creepy toy.

Palmetto bugs same as a cockroach right? We get them climbing on pine trees one got in once. Kittens chased it around until it hissed at them they all ran lol

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
5. Yes, palmetto bugs are cockroaches. There are many species
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:03 PM
Dec 2018

in the cockroach family. Some species from other continents are amazingly large.

Here's a biggun from Australia:

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
43. Palmetto Bugs are usually associated with Florida
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:56 PM
Dec 2018

But South Carolina is the Palmetto State, named after the palm tree.
Years ago I was in Key West and wearing a shirt I got in a golf tournament that had "Palmetto Power" written on it. A bartender asked me what it meant, and I said that SC was the Palmetto State. His response was, "Jesus, they named your state after a cockroach?"

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
9. I used to torture friends of mine in Florida by telling them I'd seen a palmetto bug nearby.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:12 PM
Dec 2018

Thy never bothered me, but one friend was terrified of them. Harmless bugs lol.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
10. I love praying mantis insects, too, although
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:14 PM
Dec 2018

I never saw them as a child. As an adult, I've handled many, though:

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
12. Also in the Mantid family are Stick Insects
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:15 PM
Dec 2018

Some species can be up to 24" long:



Here's a smaller North American species:

Cirque du So-What

(25,962 posts)
22. I handled them for hours as a kid
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:29 PM
Dec 2018

I found their eyes intriguing - gave the appearance of following your gaze.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
55. Praying Mantis
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:28 PM
Dec 2018

Very cool life form IMO. I have always liked watching them when I find one. I saw a video on YouTube once of a Mantis sitting on the edge of a Humming Bird feeder...it actually grabbed one as it came into feed.

LeftInTX

(25,474 posts)
13. LOL - At least potato bugs move slow!!!!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:19 PM
Dec 2018

And they weren't a numerous as roaches.

I'll take them over palmetto bugs any day!!!

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
15. I did wildlife rehab. Bears, mt. Lions, wolves, snakes, raptors...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:20 PM
Dec 2018

Palmetto bugs make me run in circles and scream. I grew up with the bastids and the sons o’ bitches fly right into your hair and kamikaze under your feet just so they can laugh at the sound of your shriek as they crunch.

I hates ‘em. I don’t mind any other bug. They are the evil demon spawn of the insect world.

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
18. One thing I like about living in the PNW
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:23 PM
Dec 2018

Is most bugs are less...intimidating. There are a few exceptions of course

brewens

(13,612 posts)
34. I read where some idiot in Australia ate a garden slug and the parasites it carried killed him.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:01 PM
Dec 2018

I guess he must have ran out of licking toads.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
57. Always makes me think of Vincent in "Pulp Fiction"...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:34 PM
Dec 2018


For me that is a mark of a well-made film or character...when details of the presentation form strong associations in the mind, you know you have a well-written or presented character!

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
24. Anyone remember an episode
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:34 PM
Dec 2018

Of the Outter Limits about the escaping "prisoners "of Zanti ..?
They looked like those bugs.....

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
26. They might have been.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:35 PM
Dec 2018

They're certainly spooky looking.

Here's a clip - Not the same bugs, though:

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
40. Holy shit! I remember that episode
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:53 PM
Dec 2018

The Zantis from Outer Limits, which was a scarier and much less refined version of Twilight Zone.
My older brother and I laughed like crazy because they had human faces, but I was actually pretty scared. Probably about 10 year old, which would have been early 1960s.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
42. What's wonderful is that YouTube has a clip of almost
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:56 PM
Dec 2018

Anything anyone has seen. I'm always amazed by that.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
30. Cool, and with vestigial wings.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:44 PM
Dec 2018


I've never seen one, although I've seen pictures. I'm rarely in Florida, though.

Thanks!

brewens

(13,612 posts)
33. We had these Mormon Crickets break out here in north central Idaho about
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:58 PM
Dec 2018

20 years ago. I've never seen anything like it. They didn't seem to eat everything they could have, but if you had some shrub they really liked, good luck! Those things swarm like locusts.

I hiked into the Wenaha Rive in southeastern Oregon one time with a buddy. we get to some prime fly fishing water and there is a grasshopper infestation going on. You couldn't even get close to the stream (it's really a big creek) without scaring a bunch of grasshoppers into the water and you could see the trout taking them!

I said hell with trying to match that, even though I had what was supposed to be a hopper fly. I'm no fly fishing expert. I just rigged a bare hook on my leader and picked a hopper off a weed every time I needed one and we slayed the trout!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cricket

2naSalit

(86,730 posts)
36. Once upon a time
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:23 PM
Dec 2018

when I was new to southern California, I was at a Thanksgiving dinner at my mom's house. She was out in the country back then, and I remember going into a dark bedroom to close a window and I stepped on something that sounded solid in a shag rug. I thought I had dropped something so I reached down to pick it up and found a glob of some wet, disgusting ooze... I had squashed one of them things. I did not have dinner that night. 't'sall I'm gonna say.





2naSalit

(86,730 posts)
59. Right!?!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:54 PM
Dec 2018

It was heckofaway to discover a new to me species. I have since found them live in gardens, even in southern Idaho. I'll never forget that first encounter every time I see one, though. Some bad memories just never fade.

ecstatic

(32,723 posts)
39. omfg. I would freak the fck out if I ever saw a Potato Bug
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:51 PM
Dec 2018

I can't handle any interaction with any type of bug, alive or dead.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
41. Anecdotal evidence suggests that they can chew through sheetrock.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:55 PM
Dec 2018

One evening many years ago my wife and I were lying in bed in the back of the house. It was a very quiet evening, and we were both drifting off to sleep when we heard a faint...crunching...noise coming from somewhere in the kitchen. We finally got up to investigate after lying there for a bit speculating about what might be making a crunching noise in the kitchen loud enough to be heard back in the bedroom... .

I flipped on the light, and we could see that something was chewing a hole in the sheetrock from within the wall cavity just above the baseboard on one of the kitchen walls. We watched as it expanded the hole from the size of a dime to about the size of a silver dollar. At that point we could see clearly that it was a tater bug. My wife (a nurse) handed me a pair of hemostat clamps, and I dragged the little cruncher out from his/her hideaway and chucked it out the side door.

Never did determine how it got into the wall cavity, but it was obvious how it intended to get out.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
45. Amazing.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:01 PM
Dec 2018

We were forever finding them in our house. I'd just pick them up and put them outside. Eventually, even my Midwestern wife would just do the same. You'd be watching TV, and one would be sleepwalking across the floor. What could you do but put them back outside? Harmless critters.

Poiuyt

(18,129 posts)
48. My house in WI has been invaded by stinkbugs this year
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:00 PM
Dec 2018

I've never seen one before in my life. This year, they're all over the place. These are the only critters that bother my wife.

mitch96

(13,920 posts)
51. The thing about palmetto bugs is
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:07 PM
Dec 2018

they are resilient buggers.. When I first moved to Florida I was shocked at their size and
THEY FLY!! Yankee roaches don't fly..
I spy one walking across the floor and take a newly acquired flip flop and give it a whack... Lift up the FF and there it is.. Pops back up on it's legs and just keeps on walking across the floor like nothing happened.. Lesson learned..
USE A HEAVY SHOE.. and keep whacking until all the juice runs out.. there is a lot of juice..
yuck...
m

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
52. Florida girl here, I find nothing as horrifying as Palmetto bugs.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:14 PM
Dec 2018

I am deathly afraid of them. I would rather come across a snake than any type of roach.
These are kind of cute in comparison.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
54. Ugh...palmetto bugs!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:26 PM
Dec 2018

Far too cute a name for those aweful flying cockroaches. I was unaware of them until I moved to Florida. I think first time I found one (in the house, natch) I all but needed sedation. Nothing like putting on your shoe and having a roach in it.

Soon after I moved there, a man came to do a regular pest control spraying in the apartment. I asked him about these disturbing creatures, and he said in the most dead pan voice, right out of a horror film "those come from outside."

In short, palmetto bugs are at the top of my list of reasons I have no interest in ever setting foot in Florida again.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
56. Ugh! I hate all insects! Especially the huge, ugly ones as shown above.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:30 PM
Dec 2018

They terrify me and totally creep me out. I am so glad I live in an area where I rarely see any.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
64. I won't lie,
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:58 PM
Dec 2018

even though spiders don’t bug me and I’m not fazed by snakes or other “scary” animals, Jerusalem crickets flip the Freak Out switch in my brain. No idea why.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
68. You're not alone in that.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:23 AM
Dec 2018

They're exceedingly weird-looking. I've met many people who just can't stand the look of them. For some reason, they don't bother me at all. But, I'm a bit weird, myself.

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