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Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:21 AM Dec 2018

Trump thinks he and his family are "immune" from being hurt. He hasn't got a clue.

This is a different show at a different time and place. The people who are after him now will get him. He can say whatever he wants, it won't matter. Whatever he does now, it won't matter. He committed crimes and all of it will be exposed. Yes, all of it. He somehow has been protected in the past, but not this time. His words mean nothing. His words don't matter. What matters is those who have been indicted and being tried by Mueller. Those people are finally telling the truth. Trump & family are not immune. They will go down. They will go down very hard. He doesn't have a clue.

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Trump thinks he and his family are "immune" from being hurt. He hasn't got a clue. (Original Post) Stuart G Dec 2018 OP
I live for the day katmondoo Dec 2018 #1
So do I. I watched the arrogance of Nixon and his gang. They also thought they were immune. Stuart G Dec 2018 #4
"I am not a crook" NBachers Dec 2018 #27
He has never been in such a situation before. He always got away with it. DetlefK Dec 2018 #2
Yes PatSeg Dec 2018 #9
I really wouldn't be surprised if he tries to declare himself untouchable and goes as far as brewens Dec 2018 #3
Secret Service doesn't really take direction from him zipplewrath Dec 2018 #5
Those secret service guys are serious dudes that go into that expecting to serve no matter who is brewens Dec 2018 #6
They serve the office, not the man, and that is something Red Don has never grasped. But... Hekate Dec 2018 #25
You are correct, no one will follow his orders. But who would want to save this asshole? Stuart G Dec 2018 #7
There was this posted yesterday about a FOX "News" host saying it was starting to really stink. brewens Dec 2018 #8
I think that's pure wishful thinking and won't happen. lark Dec 2018 #21
Having served in the military, Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #23
I wish I could believe that. lark Dec 2018 #28
The Hammer Racerdog1 Dec 2018 #10
Trump thinks he say whatever he wants because he is so smart. That shows he is stupid. Stuart G Dec 2018 #11
it's the arrogance and lack of loyalty. ginnyinWI Dec 2018 #13
Yes, the "arrogance" and "lack of loyalty" to others show... he is a "fool." Stuart G Dec 2018 #14
All the kind words about GHWB this week. ginnyinWI Dec 2018 #15
70+ years of skating. barbtries Dec 2018 #12
I always thought that Trump considered the Presidency... Wounded Bear Dec 2018 #16
From your lips to God's ears! usaf-vet Dec 2018 #17
Dec 25 is just a date - the day the trumpers are brought down will be the REAL celebration date! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2018 #18
I'm not sure he believes he'll be immune to this. But it's what he wants. Texin Dec 2018 #19
Two things that never let Trump down: McDonalds and McConnells. C Moon Dec 2018 #20
One Of These Is Not Like The Others No-Bozos Dec 2018 #22
Yes, one of those stands out a whole lot...He is raising his finger..I am the one....but what Trump Stuart G Dec 2018 #24
"...one of these things just doesn't belong." 2naSalit Dec 2018 #29
Soon Baby Soon Trump Must Go Dec 2018 #26

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
4. So do I. I watched the arrogance of Nixon and his gang. They also thought they were immune.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:30 AM
Dec 2018

Nixon even said, "I am not a crook. I have that comment in a newspaper with that headline on it. But, whatever he said, it was a lie. He really was a "crook." His gang went to jail, and he was forced to resign. I believe the same will happen to Trump. WHY? Trump is also a crook who has gotten away with it. He really doesn't have a clue. Not this time.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
2. He has never been in such a situation before. He always got away with it.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:26 AM
Dec 2018

No matter what stupid decision he made.
No matter what stupid shit he said.
No matter what he ruined.
He always got away with it.

And now he's thinking that's how things are supposed to be.

And that's why Mueller's investigation so irritates and vexes him: The thought of being held accountable is simply alien to him.

PatSeg

(47,549 posts)
9. Yes
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 11:41 AM
Dec 2018

And this undoubtedly goes back to his childhood. His parents DID send him to military school because of his behavior, but apparently that didn't help. He's been bailed out time and time again for decades and as such, he thinks he is untouchable. In Trump's case, justice might be slow, but it certainly is inevitable. He shot too high and tempted fate.

brewens

(13,609 posts)
3. I really wouldn't be surprised if he tries to declare himself untouchable and goes as far as
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:30 AM
Dec 2018

declaring martial law and demand the military protect him. If it comes to that, I believe the military and secret service will stand down and allow him to be arrested.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Secret Service doesn't really take direction from him
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:37 AM
Dec 2018

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure they are extremely deferential. And yes, I know all the lines of authority and all. But if the right people show up with the right paperwork, the SS will do what they are told to do.

brewens

(13,609 posts)
6. Those secret service guys are serious dudes that go into that expecting to serve no matter who is
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:42 AM
Dec 2018

president. It's hard to imagine he's gained any respect or loyalty from any of them, even if that could have done him much good. He's probably lucky they haven't been leaking dirt on him all along. They no doubt have seen and heard a lot that could burn him.

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
25. They serve the office, not the man, and that is something Red Don has never grasped. But...
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 12:46 AM
Dec 2018

Given how he has persistently disrespected all those around him, I doubt anyone would actually take a bullet for him.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
7. You are correct, no one will follow his orders. But who would want to save this asshole?
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 11:14 AM
Dec 2018

He has lost. His crimes are being exposed, those he ordered are exposing him. Trump got into a game that he knew nothing about, and played it as he did before. He has no clue. He broke the law, and will be exposed. He lost. He is up against someone who is an expert at catching all kinds of "law breakers." That person has a team that will catch Trump. Trump will lose. No one to save him this time....Why you ask???

...Trump is a mean and vicious asshole, who wants to save this jerk?

Those people he used, are exposing him. They will testify against him. If he were kind and sensitive, it might be somewhat different. But this asshole has hurt so many, and never apologizes for anything. Is that correct?
I don't remember Trump saying..."I am sorry" for anything. He will go down very hard.

brewens

(13,609 posts)
8. There was this posted yesterday about a FOX "News" host saying it was starting to really stink.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 11:20 AM
Dec 2018

I commented that must mean the bosses there have someone they trust telling them it's a done deal.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11505742

lark

(23,138 posts)
21. I think that's pure wishful thinking and won't happen.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 01:28 PM
Dec 2018

Military, more than anything else, is about following orders. Those who don't follow orders, go to jail and get dishonorable discharges making them ineligible for many jobs. They will do what the German military did (and they hated Hitler), and that is go along with the CIC orders, regardless of their personal feelings. Anyone who trusts our military to save them is going to be very sadly disappointed when the guns are pointed at them at Agent Orange Chaos' orders. Mattis and Joint Chiefs will back him up all the way, selling out the country for his/their personal benefit.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
23. Having served in the military,
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:22 PM
Dec 2018

I can tell you first hand, that if above post is correct: if the right people show up with their documents in order, he WILL be arrested. We don't serve the president, we serve the Office.

lark

(23,138 posts)
28. I wish I could believe that.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:28 AM
Dec 2018

I just think about Kent State and the guardsmen did fire live bullets where there were more innocent students than rock throwers. It was an illegal order and they killed young Americans because they were told to. In this case, the orders would be delivered to officers who have made the military their whole lives. I would be totally shocked if they accepted the orders because the ones at the top do report to CIC, however much he totally doesn't deserve the title. German military didn't revolt against Hitler's' illegal orders nor take action to stop him and neither will ours, is my firm bet.

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
10. The Hammer
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 11:47 AM
Dec 2018

Going to drop on this whole fucking crooked cabal. One way or another, this piece of shit is going down. Standing or under a sheet, doesn't matter.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
11. Trump thinks he say whatever he wants because he is so smart. That shows he is stupid.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 12:01 PM
Dec 2018

He said this today or yesterday and this was posted in another thread. That talking about that he is "so smart" is indeed stupid. Proof that he is stupid.....Why?
Smart people know when to shut up, Trump surely doesn't know that, and that is another reason that he is stupid

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
13. it's the arrogance and lack of loyalty.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 12:10 PM
Dec 2018

He's always gotten away with it, more or less, up until this point. This point being becoming a public official. Seems we have a higher standard for those who are supposed to be serving our country.

His voice up until now has been his source of power. His ability to con and lie his way out of things. He knows no other way and he won't stop. This time it backfires.

Another thing: loyalty. If you want loyalty, you have to extend it to others. For him it is one way only--you have to be loyal to him but he owes none. It's worked up until now because of the power of his money and status, his name, his brand. This too isn't going to work.

This guy, from the day he was born, never had to learn to earn a real friendship. It was always a sham.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
14. Yes, the "arrogance" and "lack of loyalty" to others show... he is a "fool."
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 12:21 PM
Dec 2018

Yes, a total fool. If he had loyalty to others, and wasn't so "arrogant" and above everyone else, then maybe he could see clearly. But he can't simply because of the "arrogance." I can do what I want..
..So he didn't want to go to Arlington on Veteran's Day..so he didn't. Even though it is really part of his job to do so, and he didn't want to go,...so he didn't.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
15. All the kind words about GHWB this week.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 12:26 PM
Dec 2018

Serves to show what people really want in a President, and how far this guy is falling short. I don't know if he can see it, but maybe--he's incredibly sensitive to how he looks to the media.

Wounded Bear

(58,677 posts)
16. I always thought that Trump considered the Presidency...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 12:38 PM
Dec 2018

as some kind of 'get out of jail free' card.

Let's hope you're right and he's wrong.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
19. I'm not sure he believes he'll be immune to this. But it's what he wants.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 01:10 PM
Dec 2018

And it's what he and his crime family have been used to historically since the day his grandfather Friedrich was kicked out of Bavaria and came to North America to establish his brothel. I don't know whether he actually had a mistaken idea that the POTUS functions as a king/dictator with supreme power or not. Regardless, he seeks to govern that way and that makes him a dictator-in-waiting. I fully expect he'll try to anoint himself Caligula on the Potomac, but the JOCs may have something to say about that. He and his family have had lifetimes of getting away with their tawdry criminal conduct. Perhaps, its time is running out. I hope for all of us alive on this planet today and in days to come (if there are any) that someone or something will stay his hand.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
24. Yes, one of those stands out a whole lot...He is raising his finger..I am the one....but what Trump
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 11:02 PM
Dec 2018

doesn't know, that the question is..."Who is stupid and ignorant as well?"..And Trump says..."I am the one"..While the others stay silent.

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