North Carolina Republicans Alleged to Have Committed Major Election Fraud

[workinclasszero]

Is a Do-Over Election Incoming? North Carolina Republicans Alleged to Have Committed Major Election Fraud

by Colin Kalmbacher | 2:53 pm, December 1st, 2018

Bi-partisan officials in North Carolina refuse to certify election results for a hotly contested U.S. congressional district after discovering what was alleged to be a coordinated effort by Republican Party staff to disenfranchise Democratic Party voters by intentionally destroying and altering their absentee ballots.

Neera Tanden is the president of the Center for American Progress, a left-leaning think tank. Tanden tweeted about the national media’s apparent lack of interest in the story on Saturday morning:

It seems a Republican campaign went to the houses of older Democrats, claimed to be officials, took their absentee ballots and got rid of them. The Republican “won” by 900 votes. It’s 2018. Every major newspaper should be on that story.

The Washington Post described the allegations this way:

Among the allegations is that an individual who worked for the Harris campaign coordinated an effort to collect and fill in, or discard, the ballots of Democratic voters who might have otherwise voted for McCready. Several of the affidavits come from elderly African American voters. It is illegal to take someone else’s ballot, whether to turn it in or discard it.

The allegations are shocking and, if true, would constitute some of the most egregious election fraud in recent memory.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/is-a-do-over-election-incoming-north-carolina-republicans-alleged-to-have-committed-massive-voter-fraud/

[Persondem]

1. Yep. The GOP in NC is particularly vile. I see it firsthand. K & R nt

[workinclasszero]

2. I'm sure the GOP who are always screaming VOTER FRAUD will get right into investigating this outrage

of course.

Notice how the corporate MSM is not real interested in the story.

Yeah how about that.

[watoos]

5. Every time I see someone post about the M$M, I smile.

The role of the corporate controlled right wing M$M is always overlooked. Donald Trump would be gone by now were our M$M fair and balanced. All of the M$M pushes right wing narratives. Thank goodness for sites like DU and others to keep us sane.

[workinclasszero]

8. Trump would never have got the nomination without the massive assist the MSM gave him

Les Moonves: Trump's run is 'damn good for CBS'
By ELIZA COLLINS 02/29/2016 06:15 PM EST

Donald Trump’s candidacy might not be making America great, CBS Chairman Les Moonves said Monday, but it’s great for his company.

"It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS," Moonves said at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media & Telecom Conference in San Francisco, according to The Hollywood Reporter — perfectly distilling what media critics have long suspected was motivating the round-the-clock coverage of Trump's presidential bid.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/les-moonves-trump-cbs-220001


And for their troubles Trump now calls them the enemy of the people! SUCKERS! Trump always stabs his supporters in the back.

As the auto workers/coal miners/farmer marks are now learning the hard way!

[c-rational]

25. Bingo!

[Blue_true]

31. And we all know how ethical Leslie is. nt

[brush]

57. And effin Moonves has been exposed as a sexual assaulter...somehow that goes...

hand-in-hand with his craven remark.

[barbtries]

24. i was basically going to make the same comment.

i hope someone gets prison time for this.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. Keep dreamin. It's never happened yet... prolly never will.

[watoos]

3. So if the Republican won by 900 votes,

that means they only had to flip 451 ballots.

I think another election is called for, whether it is legal to hold another election or not is another matter.

[getagrip_already]

23. only if....

That math only works for ballots that would have been filled out for d and were filled in as r.

If a completed d ballot were simply destroyed, it would take a full 900 ballots destroyed. So clearly, a changed ballot was more valuable than a destroyed one.

But they were likely also helping republicans who hadn't (and might not) complete their ballots; that just as illegal.

It's important to note just how corrupt this gop effort was. A new election is the MINIMUM remedy. People need to go to jail for a long time over this. The FBI needs to be involved.

[Blue_true]

32. Either hold another election or void the win and declare the democrat the winner.

What was done materially impacted the result. The republican would be completely invalide if seated.

[LiberalLovinLug]

40. They know there will not be another election or a void

That's why they do things like this. Like the general said when they entered Baghdad "We're here now".

Even if there is some kind of investigation it will take months even to get there. Then months or over a year to find any results. Then a couple of low level stooges will fall on their swords for the Fatherland. No one will resign. No re-vote. Just faux shocked expressions of remorse from Republican officials and a promise to do better next time. (ie...next time find a less stupider way, if that's possible)

[triron]

43. This should have been done in 2016 for the GE. Hillary won.

[SunSeeker]

4. K & R for exposure.

[quaker bill]

6. It is a challenge to imagine

that this approach was anything other than traditional and widely shared.

[Renew Deal]

7. Wait till Trump finds out. He will be pissed

[defacto7]

9. Here in UT someone comes to my door and offers

to post my ballot at almost every election. I always tell them to get the hell off my porch, only I'm nicer about it. I can't help but detect the possibility of a scam.

[workinclasszero]

10. Wow looks like the GOP is running this scam in other states too

[diva77]

18. I suggest reporting this and submitting an affadavit - perhaps to ACLU

Somehow get this in the public record.

There is also this: https://www.justice.gov/crt/complaint/votintake/index.php

Election Complaint Report

If you wish to report a possible violation of the federal voting rights laws, please fill out the form below. This includes possible violations of the voting-related provisions of the Civil Rights Acts, the Voting Rights Act, the Voting Accessibility for the Elderly and Handicapped Act, the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act, the National Voter Registration Act, and the Help America Vote Act. Please describe the nature of the complaint, and provide contact information, so that our staff may follow up if any additional information is required.

but considering who heads justice dept....hmmm -- but still good to get it on record
Report it to your SOS as well
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also, I don't know if these lines are still up, but:

https://truethevote.org/election-fraud-reporting-hotlines

[defacto7]

44. So I guess this practice is what I surmised.

Considering the other comments and having seen none that show any well meaning practices where door to door voting "helpers" are concerned, I guess it should always be considered voting suppression when someone wants to retrieve my ballot. I just took it for granted without any knowledge.

Thanks. I'll take your advice. I may even repeat the process after the regime change.

[diva77]

47. I don't know the circumstances but if you think there was something fraudulent about what happened,

it's best to get it on the record -- the thing about election fraud is that it's hard to see the forest for the trees -- something that seems innocent might not actually be so innocent once you find out it's happening with the same bias toward 100's of thousands of others.

[Farmer-Rick]

26. Yeah, we had some weird RepubliCONS come visit close to the elections

We had plans to early vote so didn't pay much attention to them. They had Repuke and Trump stickers on their big SUV. They kept asking us about absentee voting. My better half was ill and I figured someone at church had said something. They said they would help us fill them out, though never got around to telling us they would submit them for us.

We quickly got rid of them by holding on to 2 very large dogs. Though the dogs would more likely lick them to death then hurt them.

[Blue_true]

34. A lot of old people that are virtual shutins would welcome the help.

The North Carolina DC should have tried to identify shutin or immobile Dems and arranged local rides to drop off ballots or vote in person. But, even with rides, republicans will eventually figure out a way to cheat. And all of them call themselves Christians.

[Iliyah]

11. From what I've

gathered from various sites is that GOPers sent out patrols of people who told the house members that they could fill out the ballots for them (mostly Democratic residents) and instead of putting the residents choice (McCready) they marked Harris.

Republicans at their finest . . . .

[edhopper]

13. NC was also a State

that the Repukes probably stole from Hillary in 2016.

[NCjack]

14. It amazes me that the NCGOP needs to commit this type of fraud,

considering how severely gerrymandered NC is.

The best cure: root out these criminals and "lock-em-up".

[47of74]

15. Voter suppression and electoral fraud should be punishable by death

And it should be public too. They need to be written into the constitution as the very worst crimes that a person can commit. Worse than treason. Such crimes strike at the heart of democracy and lead to tyranny. The punishment needs to be so God awful that no one will want to even take one for the team by committing these crimes.

[sharedvalues]

16. It's just standard GOP voter suppression

This is what people don’t get— voter suppression IS voter fraud.

Why do we call this technique for suppressing votes “fraud” but changes in registration rules not fraud?

GOP voter supppression is fraud.

[lpbk2713]

17. They're rethuglicans. It's what they do.

They will lie, cheat and steal as much as it takes in order to gain or keep any political power.

[Hortensis]

19. Great! Gotta say, may be "some of the most egregious election

fraud in recent memory," but it's still small potatoes compared to Georgia's top elections official, Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp, disenfranchising up to 800,000 voters in full view of the world for an election in which he himself was a candidate. Plus all the other types of election theft in Georgia that he and his criminal Republican gang also were involved in.

Good for the officials in North Carolina. Hope it's causing a little cold chill here in Georgia, if only for the future.

[workinclasszero]

21. Yeah Georgia is the worst

The GOP flat stole that election with voter suppression.

[mainer]

20. If someone comes to your door offering to post your ballot

Take a photo of them, for heaven's sake! Record the interaction!

[workinclasszero]

27. Definitely!

I wonder if any of these folks have a doorbell cam or other security cams that got pics of these GOP vote stealing thieves?

[Blue_true]

36. You are talking about old unsophisticated people.

Scammer prey on them all the time for a variety of scams. Republicans identified them and took unethical advantage, the North Carolina Democratic Party should have also identified those people and insured that they got a valid, legal vote in, but look like it did not.

[spanone]

22. K&R...👍🏼

[AllaN01Bear]

28. god fucking dammit . quit screwing with our right to vote you alfa hotels.

[PeeJ52]

29. This is why the Repugs scream about election fraud...

They know they do it so they figure the Dems must do it too...

[FuzzyRabbit]

41. Amen!

[defacto7]

46. No, I think it's just projecting their guilt.

In 45's case it's a way to lie and make it believable. For instance during his campaign he kept repeating, "there is voter fraud going on, I know it, believe me." You bet there was and it wasn't by the people he was so vaguely eluding to, it was his own supporters.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

30. anyone other than the board of elections investigating?

This looks like the job for a real FBI investigation, if it isn't too contaminated by Dirty Donnie already.

[SMC22307]

33. All voter suppression is bad, but preying on the elderly this way is particularly shitty.

Damn, I unfriended two NC Trumpanzees on Facebook... kinda wish I had kept them on just for this very topic.

[Scurrilous]

35. K&R

[Time for change]

37. There are several additional issues that support the likelihood of election fraud that are not

covered in this article:

1) Rejected (i.e. ballots that were sent in but never counted) rates for absentee ballots were 40% in Bladen County and 62% in Robeson County. Each of the other 6 counties in District 9 had rejection rates of less than 27%. That seems to be consistent with the fact that, whereas the other 6 counties all demonstrated a far higher percentage of Democratic votes than Election Day ballots -- 24% for the whole District, even including Bladen and Robeson counties -- Bladen and Robeson Counties demonstrated a higher Republican percentage (8% and 6%), compared to Election Day ballots in those counties. This suggests missing Democratic absentee votes from those counties. That all could be explained if it was found that ballots with Democratic votes were selectively rejected.

2) Remarkably, absentee ballots that were accepted in Bladen County were 19% from Republicans, 42% from Democrats, and 39% from unaffiliated voters, even though those very same ballots leaned Republican by a 24% margin over Democrat votes. That too could be explained by selective rejection of Democratic votes, regardless of Party affiliation.

3) The overall absentee ballot rate in Bladen County was 7.3%, compared to an average of 3.7% for District 9, in which 6 of the 8 counties demonstrated rates of 2.8 or lower.

4) There were 1,675 absentee ballots that were rejected in Bladen and Robeson Counties combined, plenty enough to tip the election had they been counted.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-heck-is-happening-in-that-north-carolina-house-race/

[paleotn]

38. reason # 278 why I no longer live in NC...

The Republican establishment in NC is evil beyond your wildest nightmares. After all, these are the political descendants of Jesse Helms.

Personally, we couldn't stand living in Mark Meadows' district anymore. I knew Price would loose the 11th, even with some money and organization behind the Dem candidate for a change. My better half was ever hopeful, but the inevitable was the inevitable. I know these people too well. Don't get me wrong, they're not all wicked, white supremist scum bags. They're just politically and religiously propagandized well beyond the point of no return. Outside of politics and religion, they're wonderful folks. Religiously and politically, many are throw backs to the 15th century. So, when given the opportunity, we left. For me, if worse comes to worse for this country, I'd much rather be here than there.

[blm]

54. Henderson County?

Moved here a couple years ago.

[dlk]

39. Big Surprise - The Party of Projection Does it Again

[blue-wave]

42. WTF!

Lock 'em up. Lock every republicon up!

[jmowreader]

45. The remedy is something they won't even consider...but it'll work

Take back the certifications already made for this election, decertify the NC Republican Party, and disqualify every NC Republican who ran in the 2018 election. Then disallow Republicans from running for office in North Carolina until 2031. If they did this crap in NC-9 they probably also did it in the rest of the state.

[Amaryllis]

48. Arent we all shocked? Imagine Rs stealing elections. WHat a novel idea.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. IKR!! Might wanna check out Georgia too!!

[TexasBushwhacker]

49. I've always thought that absentee/mail in ballots

would be easier to mess with in terms of voter fraud. Somehow, the focus has always been to find IN PERSON voter fraud, which would actually be pretty difficult.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

50. Nothing about NC politics would surprise me anymore.

The NC GOP has become THE state to teach political science majors to study for politics gone horribly wrong. Don't forget what the GOP tried to pull on Roy Cooper during the election he won against Pat McCrory. They pulled out every nasty, repulsive, dirty attack they could. Then when Cooper was determined to have won the governorship, the NC GOP tried to strip the office of all power. It's the same tactic the WI GOP is now trying to pull on Troy Evers who beat Scott Walker (and beat him beautifully !).

"Democrats want to govern, republicans want to rule"

[AJT]

51. I am assuming the media is waiting for an official report to be released.

[lordsummerisle]

55. K&R

for exposure.

[DontBooVote]

56. Those cretins have been painting us as the election cheaters. Turn it back on them!

We need to do the painting of them as the election cheats now.

We need to do a hell of a lot better job of putting the cheater label right where it belongs: on the republicon party. They need to be declared and treated as persona non grata, as un-American . They should be branded as enemies of democracy and those who have sworn to protect this nation and it's Constitution, from enemies both foriegn and domestic, need to step up and remove this menace from causing any more danger and distruction to our country.