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Gothmog

(145,374 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:11 PM Dec 2018

Trump unlikely to trade Pence the presidency for a pardon because there's no way to save the Trump O

I have been worried that trump will resign and have pence issue him a pardon. It seems that a pardon cannot be issued to the Trump organization and that is what trump's values most. Even if pence could pardon the trump organization, the state of New York and other states will take trump and the trump organization down


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Trump unlikely to trade Pence the presidency for a pardon because there's no way to save the Trump O (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2018 OP
Pence is as guilty as Trump Lithos Dec 2018 #1
pence could resign before trump leaves and trump could put in some other mucifer Dec 2018 #3
The president and vice president would have to leave office simultaneously for that to happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #5
The VP nominee has to be approved by majority vote of both Senate and House. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #8
That, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #9
That's an easier situation Lithos Dec 2018 #10
Not necessarily jmowreader Dec 2018 #11
Well, we're gonna need to know if they REEEEEEEALLLY hate the Romans!?! mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #14
Do I have to eat badger's spleens? jmowreader Dec 2018 #16
That would be a great scenario. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #17
"I'm dreaming of President Pelosi..." 🎶 sprinkleeninow Dec 2018 #2
Won't happen. See #5. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #7
Trump has killed his own organization and future with his ego. bitterross Dec 2018 #4
He should've thought about that before he popped his head up and ran for Prez. cpamomfromtexas Dec 2018 #6
He may have run as a way to save his company nt Jarqui Dec 2018 #12
The NYAG will take out the Trump Organization Gothmog Dec 2018 #13
He's delusional if he thinks he can just go back to his old life. brush Dec 2018 #15

mucifer

(23,555 posts)
3. pence could resign before trump leaves and trump could put in some other
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:20 PM
Dec 2018

monster as vp who wasn't involved in the treason. That person could then become President.

All that is what happen with Spiro Agnew, Nixon and Ford.

I think pence could be convinced to step down. I don't know what will happen with trump.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
5. The president and vice president would have to leave office simultaneously for that to happen.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:25 PM
Dec 2018

Whoever is president when the VP position becomes vacant is required by the 25th Amendment to appoint another VP. So there would have to be no president AND no VP for Pelosi to become president.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
10. That's an easier situation
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:06 AM
Dec 2018

Pence and Trump resign - no matter the order. No successor is chosen either way. Then Pelosi comes in.

Personally, like to see Pence first - he's guilty as snot, one of Manafort's hand-picked conspirators.

L-

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
11. Not necessarily
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:07 AM
Dec 2018

If Pence resigns and Congress refuses to sign off on his replacement, both offices would become vacant when Trump resigns.

Now, for extra entertainment: Pence resigns with no replacement. Trump is forced to resign. Pelosi is sworn in as president. Pelosi needs a VP, and selects Hillary Clinton. Once she is approved, Pelosi immediately resigns as president and is named speaker of the House again. Hillary becomes president and installs someone who really hates the Romans as her VP.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
4. Trump has killed his own organization and future with his ego.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:23 PM
Dec 2018

Trump has, effectively, ensured his Trump Organization will end up shutting down. There is no doubt in my mind the organization is little more than an organized crime corporation.

If Trump didn't have such a huge ego and such pettiness he wouldn't have felt it necessary to run for President. He let the Russians talk him into it and then they made sure he won. Now, when it's all over and they don't need him anymore he's totally screwed.

brush

(53,794 posts)
15. He's delusional if he thinks he can just go back to his old life.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:58 AM
Dec 2018

The trump brand isn't worth a quarter anymore.

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