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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:13 PM Dec 2018

Inside Payless's elaborate prank to dupe people into paying $600 for shoes

A mini-runway, lined with stiletto heels, glistens in bright fluorescent lighting. Shoes of various types sit neatly in individual glass shelves. A statue of an angel carrying several shopping bags stands in the middle as Los Angeles fashionistas mill about, trying on shoes, posing on the red carpet, drinking champagne served in tall, slender glasses.

It was a private launch party of a new luxury brand of shoes called Palessi, designed by Italian designer Bruno Palessi.

“I would pay $400, $500. People are going to be like, ‘Where did you get those? Those are amazing,’ ” a woman said as she tried on a pair of bright-gold sneakers with leopard prints.

The woman was not actually buying a Palessi because there’s no such brand, and there’s no Bruno Palessi.

There is, however, Payless ShoeSource, a discount shoe retailer hoping to shake things up through an elaborate — and expensive — advertising prank to attract new customers and change the perception that the company sells cheap, unfashionable shoes.

“We felt like this campaign would be a great way to get a lot of people to consider Payless again, and to realize it’s more than just a shoe store in the mall,” said Sarah Couch, Payless’s chief marketing officer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/11/30/they-had-us-fooled-inside-paylesss-elaborate-prank-dupe-people-into-paying-shoes/?utm_term=.1a8e26307d68&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

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Inside Payless's elaborate prank to dupe people into paying $600 for shoes (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 OP
My mother had an obsession about taking care of our feet malaise Dec 2018 #1
Same here. madaboutharry Dec 2018 #5
That simple malaise Dec 2018 #6
My mother had the same opinion. She looked for spooky3 Dec 2018 #7
Same here malaise Dec 2018 #9
Don't get me started canetoad Dec 2018 #8
I have often wondered about who thought/thinks they are good for the human back or feet malaise Dec 2018 #20
Pretty clear those fashionistas had no clue about what comprises actual quality. suffragette Dec 2018 #10
You are so right malaise Dec 2018 #13
Enriching themselves. That's exactly what they were doing. Most of them were described as holding suffragette Dec 2018 #22
Duck feet? brush Dec 2018 #28
Narrow heel with a wider forefoot. suffragette Dec 2018 #35
A pair of well made shoes can last a lifetime Major Nikon Dec 2018 #29
You're right malaise Dec 2018 #31
Yes. My boots are Meindl and are 25 years old Drahthaardogs Dec 2018 #43
I learnt the hard way HipChick Dec 2018 #30
Our neighbor was discussing this yesterday malaise Dec 2018 #32
Not surprising given how gullible the Russians made us look underpants Dec 2018 #2
I bought shoes with my daughter at DSW and most of their shoes, under $125, were pleather. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #36
I'd heard of this but didn't realize it was so elaborate Roland99 Dec 2018 #3
Makes me remember when I ran a wine-tasting club in DC with "brown-bag" wines erronis Dec 2018 #4
Good thing that you didn't have me in that club, my friend. Blue_true Dec 2018 #14
I'm glad it's not just me teenagebambam Dec 2018 #26
Pretty much where I am. But what is Barbera d'Alba. Blue_true Dec 2018 #41
Barbera d'Alba teenagebambam Dec 2018 #42
Payless is one of the few places that have cute shoes in wide widths crazycatlady Dec 2018 #11
You make an excellent point. Blue_true Dec 2018 #16
Shoe manufacturers have yet to catch up for people with wide feet crazycatlady Dec 2018 #17
I have a terrible time finding shoes because Raine Dec 2018 #23
Have you tried the kids section? crazycatlady Dec 2018 #24
Thanks, good idea Raine Dec 2018 #25
5 1/2, hard to find and in wide, really hard to find. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2018 #33
Yes the wide sizes are hard to find FakeNoose Dec 2018 #27
Some fast food company had a variation of this a few years ago. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #12
I too didn't see the problem. Blue_true Dec 2018 #18
Agreed. You make what people will buy I guess BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #19
It certainly shows up the goofiness of this whole influencer concept - they stacked the deck petronius Dec 2018 #15
"those who bought the shoes were allowed to keep them for free" oberliner Dec 2018 #21
I think this is fun! renate Dec 2018 #34
I like Payless because they have sturdy work boots Codeine Dec 2018 #37
Never paid more then 30 bucks for a pair of shoes Marrah_Goodman Dec 2018 #38
I gladly pay whatever for Finn-Comfort SoCalDem Dec 2018 #39
change the name, abbreviate, like KFC become "PL shoes" Demonaut Dec 2018 #40

malaise

(269,063 posts)
1. My mother had an obsession about taking care of our feet
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:20 PM
Dec 2018

She always told us that it was better to own one pair of Clark's than several cheap shoes. It paid off - i have no corns and no bunions to this day and these feet are old. I 'll buy good shoes on sale. I have never bought shoes at Payless. I do buy their cheap laces for sneakers. They won't fool me or my siblings.
What a dishonest greedy bunch.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
5. Same here.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:27 PM
Dec 2018

I have a motto: Wearing a well made pair of shoes is as important as getting your teeth cleaned every 6 months. Once those things go bad, life can be a misery.

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
7. My mother had the same opinion. She looked for
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:31 PM
Dec 2018

Bargains for many other things, but thought quality shoes were important.

I have shoes that are more than ten years old and have been worn a lot (and repaired a few times). All but one pair still looks and feels great.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
8. Don't get me started
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:37 PM
Dec 2018

On ridiculously impractical, overpriced and dangerous women's shoes. I'm convinced that the concept of stillettos is a direct link to the 'Lotus Foot' so prized in foot-binding cultures.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
20. I have often wondered about who thought/thinks they are good for the human back or feet
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:17 PM
Dec 2018

and all or vanity or a certain look

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
10. Pretty clear those fashionistas had no clue about what comprises actual quality.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:41 PM
Dec 2018

So many things would be a clear giveaway between those shoes and better quality ones.

They must have no idea about European vs US shoe sizing either.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
13. You are so right
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:53 PM
Dec 2018

These fashionistas are only interested in enriching themselves.
They really are clueless. I wear British 5 1/2, American 7 1/2 and it has been fun watching my feet gain a half size in the last 30 years.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
22. Enriching themselves. That's exactly what they were doing. Most of them were described as holding
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:28 PM
Dec 2018

up a shoe and praising it. Doubt any of them tried walking in the shoes or looked at the inside construction.

I wear from 6 1/2 - 7 in American or Canadian, depending on the style and brand.
My best fit tends to be in 37 in certain of the European brands. Those have a narrower heel and slighter wider forefoot that works with my duck feet.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
35. Narrow heel with a wider forefoot.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:23 PM
Dec 2018

Of course, duck feet is an exaggeration but many shoes are either too wide in the heels or too narrow at the toes ( or even both) to fit.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
29. A pair of well made shoes can last a lifetime
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:34 PM
Dec 2018

A well made shoe will have a welted sole and a cork midsole that molds to your foot as it breaks in. The uppers will be made of quality leather that if properly cared for will not wear out. When the sole wears out, it can be replaced with a new one. I have shoes and boots that are over 30 years old and they are still far more comfortable and durable than the vast majority of new shoes on the market today. If something lasts 10 times longer, you only paid 1/10th of the price.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
43. Yes. My boots are Meindl and are 25 years old
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:02 AM
Dec 2018

We have put miles on together from the Alaskan tundra to the pheasant fields of Kansas. They are still waterproof

malaise

(269,063 posts)
32. Our neighbor was discussing this yesterday
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:44 PM
Dec 2018

He fixed a bumper the cheap way after ignoring our advice. He came over to say that now he has to go and buy the new bumper.
You can get really good quality stuff on sale, but if it was dirt cheap from the beginning, the quality may be suspect. On the other hand there is some very expensive crap stuff.

underpants

(182,832 posts)
2. Not surprising given how gullible the Russians made us look
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:21 PM
Dec 2018

You're not getting leather there but you can find some good cheap shoes.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
4. Makes me remember when I ran a wine-tasting club in DC with "brown-bag" wines
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:24 PM
Dec 2018

Many of us considered ourselves fairly cognoscenti about stuff like "mouth", "bouquet", "legs", etc.

Most of us were totally gobsmacked by how wrong we were between $10 and $100 bottles. We tried to vary the timing of the wines so the "afficianados" weren't too affected by the earlier tastes, but sometimes it's just how pretty is the label, how much it costs. Ivanka?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. Good thing that you didn't have me in that club, my friend.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

You would have been going to the roughest part of town to buy $2 Apple-berry wine to get me to see a difference between that and a $1,000 bottle. I cook with wine, but other than that, I have zero feel for the taste difference between wines of the same type, regardless of how expensive or cheap they are (I can tell different types).

teenagebambam

(1,592 posts)
26. I'm glad it's not just me
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:55 PM
Dec 2018

My usual first question when tasting ANY wine is "what am I supposed to think of this?" because it all pretty much tastes the same to me. The only type I can truly say I love is a Barbera d'Alba.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. Pretty much where I am. But what is Barbera d'Alba.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:37 AM
Dec 2018

Honestly, when people are sampling wine and talking about the assorted flavors they are getting, I sit glassy eyed. A sure way to shut me up is to have a wine tasting anywhere me. And I won't be shut up because I am drinking wine either.

teenagebambam

(1,592 posts)
42. Barbera d'Alba
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 06:44 AM
Dec 2018

is an Italian wine from northern Italy - Alba is the town where Nutella is made. Mind you I can't tell you WHY I like it, I just do.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
11. Payless is one of the few places that have cute shoes in wide widths
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:46 PM
Dec 2018

That don't look like I raided the closet of a nursing home. Knock them all you want but they're a godsend for this.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. You make an excellent point.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:00 PM
Dec 2018

Unless a person gets expensive shoes custom made, they are brutal on people that have wide feet. I have two pair of pricey shoes, but I can only be in them two hours max. For everyday wear, I wear a comfortable pair of semi-sneakers (somewhat dressier than sneakers, but they are comfortable).

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
17. Shoe manufacturers have yet to catch up for people with wide feet
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:03 PM
Dec 2018

Not all of us are in nursing homes or want to wear shoes that look like you raided your grandmother's closet.

There's a huge market out there, and Payless is one of the few to cash in on it.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
23. I have a terrible time finding shoes because
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:26 PM
Dec 2018

I have a really small foot size 5 but really wide. I can't be particular and snobbish about where I get my shoes, I'm just thrilled when I find some that are in my size.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
24. Have you tried the kids section?
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:33 PM
Dec 2018

I have a 7.5 foot and sometimes find athletic shoes in the kid's section for much cheaper than the adult's section. Usually on clearance at places like TJ Maxx.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
25. Thanks, good idea
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:41 PM
Dec 2018

I'll do that. I dread when my shoes start to wear out finding new ones is such an ordeal.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
27. Yes the wide sizes are hard to find
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:09 PM
Dec 2018

I don't actually have wide feet but I do have bunions. Most women's shoes are not designed to accommodate bunions (or any other foot problem) so I've suffered a lot of foot pain over the years. Finally I realized that the "wide" version of any shoe would fit even though the "normal" doesn't. So now I go to stores that carry wide shoes and Payless is one of them. I've also found wide shoes at Walmart believe it or not. They might be cheap plastic shoes from China, but at least I can wear them without pain.




BannonsLiver

(16,397 posts)
12. Some fast food company had a variation of this a few years ago.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:52 PM
Dec 2018

The premise was people couldn’t believe they were eating a fast food burger vs. homemade. Sort of hackneyed marketing, but not exactly a crime against humanity either.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. I too didn't see the problem.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:08 PM
Dec 2018

There are just people in the world that will pay $600 for something that cost $20 to make. Should we stop them if what they buy make them feel special?

BannonsLiver

(16,397 posts)
19. Agreed. You make what people will buy I guess
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:14 PM
Dec 2018

Another not so minor detail here is nobody actually paid $600 for the cheap shoes. Again, I’m not getting the outrage, or from WaPo’s angle, the news value.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
15. It certainly shows up the goofiness of this whole influencer concept - they stacked the deck
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:57 PM
Dec 2018

with people particularly eager to be flattered and willing to be duped.

But I can't claim that I'm much savvier - I know I can be swayed more than I care to admit by packaging, context, presentation, etc...

renate

(13,776 posts)
34. I think this is fun!
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:17 PM
Dec 2018

It goes to show how styling and photography and Instagram and perceived rarity, not actual craftsmanship or quality, influence many people's choices. I love the idea of Payless shoes being bid on for hundreds of dollars... it means that regular people can afford to buy things that would normally, due mostly to advertising, packaging, and imaging, be priced out of reach. And it also shows that people who think they're paying for design and quality... aren't, at least not necessarily.

I'm 100% behind this prank.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
37. I like Payless because they have sturdy work boots
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:04 PM
Dec 2018

that aren’t made with leather. I’ve always gotten a lot of wear from them despite their low price.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
38. Never paid more then 30 bucks for a pair of shoes
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:08 PM
Dec 2018

And those, to me, were expensive. I cannot begin to understand people who pay hundreds of dollars for a pair.

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