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kpete

(72,024 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:43 PM Nov 2018

Whoa. Trump drew a line in the sand.

Whoa.


He had better hope Mueller doesn't have something that contradicts these denials or that's all she wrote.



@amandawgolden
CNN Exclusive: President Trump told Mueller in writing that Roger Stone did not tell him about WikiLeaks, nor was he told about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son, campaign officials and a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton https://cnn.it/2Qo9ZRT




MORE:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/28/politics/trump-mueller-answers-wikileaks-trump-tower/index.html



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Whoa. Trump drew a line in the sand. (Original Post) kpete Nov 2018 OP
Sure moron TEB Nov 2018 #1
Even putting space between himself and family. Nice. NT WeekiWater Nov 2018 #2
You know tRump is lying, the dirty SOB. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2018 #3
Yes, the "fallout should be interesting" indeed. very interesting... 3 boxes please.. Stuart G Nov 2018 #4
Help yourself, my dear Stuart G! It's my pleasure. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2018 #5
Happy belated birthday! orangecrush Nov 2018 #33
Aw, thank you, my dear orangecrush! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2018 #37
Perhaps Stone informed tRump with the help of Lil Cirque du So-What Nov 2018 #6
+1 hurl Nov 2018 #41
Here's the clip for those who are unfamiliar with it Cirque du So-What Nov 2018 #44
So. What sort of evidence may Mueller have to contradict these claims? GusBob Nov 2018 #7
See my post below (n/t) PJMcK Nov 2018 #9
Trump's former lawyers have testified under oath gratuitous Nov 2018 #8
None of his lies ever convinced sane people. BSdetect Nov 2018 #10
The problem is, HE is not sane and he has convinced himself of his lies. Marie Marie Nov 2018 #28
It's a problem for him, volstork Nov 2018 #31
True that. Marie Marie Nov 2018 #32
The blocked phone number PJMcK Nov 2018 #11
How stupid are they that they didn't use prepaid throwaway cell phones Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #22
I would think with a search warrant Guppy Nov 2018 #27
Surely they (Muellers team) did come right out and ask JR. if that number bluestarone Nov 2018 #29
I don't think Mr. Mueller's team has interviewed Junior PJMcK Nov 2018 #39
OK Gotcha TY bluestarone Nov 2018 #43
All she wrote jcgoldie Nov 2018 #12
Sadly you are correct. Pepsidog Nov 2018 #18
EXACTLY. Same headlines every day since he was inaugurated! "TRUMP PANICS" etc. STILL HE PERSISTS! BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #23
Don't believe your lyin' eyes and ears C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #13
He just made a liar out of Don JR, who said eventually his dad came up with the cover ... marble falls Nov 2018 #14
What is that saying??? sdfernando Nov 2018 #15
If I remember correctly,... LudwigPastorius Nov 2018 #16
Maybe so, but I'm sure Mueller has already traced Jr.'s phone records FakeNoose Nov 2018 #19
During his congressional testimony, when asked if any of the phonecalls were to his father... blugbox Nov 2018 #21
But even if he did call d****** he can always say Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #24
Mueller has interviewed most if not all Mr.Bill Nov 2018 #35
Weird that someone on news said yesterday no one Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #38
"Does it matter what he says now?" LudwigPastorius Nov 2018 #42
we know every other word out of his mouth is a lie...i suspect the same applies to his pen. spanone Nov 2018 #17
The problem with the denial of sir orange is that The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #20
Interesting how he specifically says Stone didn't tell him Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #25
wasnt too smart saying he answered them all himself samnsara Nov 2018 #26
He said "to the best of his recollection" SHRED Nov 2018 #30
If Mueller has rock solid, written proof that Trump is lying.... Kablooie Nov 2018 #34
Yep. efhmc Nov 2018 #45
Basically, Trump was given a take-home test Mr.Bill Nov 2018 #36
That is all she wrote malaise Nov 2018 #40

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,720 posts)
3. You know tRump is lying, the dirty SOB.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:50 PM
Nov 2018

Mueller certainly knows the true answers and these aren't those.

The fallout should be interesting.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
7. So. What sort of evidence may Mueller have to contradict these claims?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:55 PM
Nov 2018

Shit DT was crowing about Wikileaks during the campaign and hinted that dirt was coming on HRC shortly before the TT meeting. These were public statements

Dying to know the evidence

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Trump's former lawyers have testified under oath
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:57 PM
Nov 2018

One of his bankruptcy cases, Trump's lawyers were deposed and testified that they adopted the practice of sending two lawyers to every meeting with Trump because he was so untrustworthy, and they needed two people to verify what he said. I don't think Trump has gotten more truthful in the meantime. Let's see if Trump is as good as his (written) word.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
28. The problem is, HE is not sane and he has convinced himself of his lies.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:44 PM
Nov 2018

He begins to believe his own bullshit if it fits his narrative or desired outcome.

PJMcK

(22,053 posts)
11. The blocked phone number
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:02 PM
Nov 2018

Junior made a phone call immediately after the Trump Tower meeting to a phone number that was blocked. Trump is known to have had a blocked number.

How believable is it that Junior wouldn't call Daddy right after the meeting?

The dots are connecting.

Jersey Devil

(9,875 posts)
22. How stupid are they that they didn't use prepaid throwaway cell phones
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:01 PM
Nov 2018

for stuff they surely knew was illegal?

bluestarone

(17,060 posts)
29. Surely they (Muellers team) did come right out and ask JR. if that number
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:49 PM
Nov 2018

was his father right? So IF he stated no then Bingo (perjury). Did Jr. deny this? If he did,i did not hear this.

PJMcK

(22,053 posts)
39. I don't think Mr. Mueller's team has interviewed Junior
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:46 PM
Nov 2018

Junior did testify before a Congressional committee where he claimed he didn't remember who he called after the Trump Tower meeting, (the blocked number).

jcgoldie

(11,651 posts)
12. All she wrote
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:02 PM
Nov 2018

Seems like in Trump's case that was "all she wrote" many times but she just keeps writing...

marble falls

(57,281 posts)
14. He just made a liar out of Don JR, who said eventually his dad came up with the cover ...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:08 PM
Nov 2018

story for that meeting.

sdfernando

(4,947 posts)
15. What is that saying???
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:10 PM
Nov 2018

"A good prosecutor never asks a question they don't already know the answer to" Is that it?

Well Robert Mueller is better than a good prosecutor, he is effin amazing!

LudwigPastorius

(9,181 posts)
16. If I remember correctly,...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:12 PM
Nov 2018

Stone has been interviewed by Mueller, whereas Jr. has not.

I doubt Stone implicated Trump, or said that Trump had knowledge of Wikileaks or the Tower meeting.

I think this info, about how Trump answered these two questions, was leaked by Trump's team to get Donny Jr. "in line" should he ever have answer those questions. Trump's lawyer's have to assume that Jr.'s phone and email are tapped.

Leaking the "correct" answers to these questions to the media may have been the only way to signal him how to answer without getting caught in a conspiracy to cover up the collusion.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
19. Maybe so, but I'm sure Mueller has already traced Jr.'s phone records
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:39 PM
Nov 2018

Does it matter what he says now? He'll say he didn't call his Dad of course. But the phone records and emails say something different.

blugbox

(951 posts)
21. During his congressional testimony, when asked if any of the phonecalls were to his father...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:54 PM
Nov 2018

He answered "he didn't know"

He didn't know who he called? Or did he just not inherit his father's genius level intellect and can't remember?

Of course, any of these answers are shitty lies. He knows he called daddy.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. But even if he did call d****** he can always say
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:23 PM
Nov 2018

It was about something else though right? I mean he could just say he invited him over for dinner. From what I understand people don't know exactly what time the meeting occurred? Like they know when the call occurred but they don't know what time the meeting did. Ergo, it could be before or after.

Mr.Bill

(24,330 posts)
35. Mueller has interviewed most if not all
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:17 PM
Nov 2018

of the people who were in that meeting. He knows what time it began and ended.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. Weird that someone on news said yesterday no one
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:31 PM
Nov 2018

Knows. But you r right. If they have phone records and interview respondents


LudwigPastorius

(9,181 posts)
42. "Does it matter what he says now?"
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:13 PM
Nov 2018

I doubt it. But, after Trump realized that Mueller asked Manafort questions he already knew the answer to, he freaked out and wants someone to back up his written responses (which are probably lies).

As you say, there are phone records and emails. Don Jr. is going down for conspiracy, and Trump will remain an unindicted co-conspirator until he is out of office.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
20. The problem with the denial of sir orange is that
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:45 PM
Nov 2018

Cohen, Guiliani and Nunberg all have indicated or hinted that indeed trump knew about the meeting. He even went so far as to dictate trump jr's statement on the matter.

We all know trump is lying, it seems like trump doesn't realize we all know he's lying, or he simply just does not care.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Interesting how he specifically says Stone didn't tell him
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:24 PM
Nov 2018

About WikiLeaks. It could have been someone else. No, I take that back it was someone else.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
34. If Mueller has rock solid, written proof that Trump is lying....
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:04 PM
Nov 2018

Republicans will yawn and ignore it.

Rule of law and the Constitution means nothing to any of them.
The only thing of importance is protecting the party by denying any Trump scandal that is exposed.

There's no way Trump will be held accountable for anything until after he leaves the presidency in 2020.

I can appreciate the exposés but I have no faith they will do anything to decrease Trump's power.

Mr.Bill

(24,330 posts)
36. Basically, Trump was given a take-home test
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nov 2018

and given months to complete it, and he still will get an F.

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