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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:22 PM Nov 2018

the whole fucking problem of Poverty(starvation)

and anguish in South America and their need to migrate to the United States is the fault of One basic Concept!
The Catholic Church and their pressure they put on their followers to have more children.The.More children, and the more dues they will collect will allow Church officials to lead a good life..

Meanwhile the poor Fathers and Mothers of the aforementioned end up helpless with regards to providing for themselves and their families..

Is this not true? Do you agree?

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Kali

(55,011 posts)
1. Nah, while the church is bad and influences that problem the deeper issues are policies implemented
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:24 PM
Nov 2018

by governments, especially the US.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
6. I don't see how its a small part of it..
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:28 PM
Nov 2018

The impoverished families over extend their selves with having more children which they cannot handle financially and end up in extreme poverty!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
8. These people are impoverished because U.S. policies ruined their countries' infrastructures.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:31 PM
Nov 2018

Having more children is a fairly low-level decision that is influenced by many other high-level policies.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
10. Poverty in general is a highly complicated issue that is difficult to manage by maknig one personal
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:33 PM
Nov 2018

choice differently.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
9. Please tell me the large part..
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:33 PM
Nov 2018

But it begins with the mother and father overextending themselves financially by having freaking children they can not care for..

I just wonder if each of these millions of families in poverty only had 2 children at the most, would have helped their situation.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
11. These people are coming from countries that have been ruined by high-level policies.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:36 PM
Nov 2018

War, corruption, destruction of infrastructures. They aren't "overextended." They are living in a place where it's nearly impossible for them to gain a foothold. That is why they are leaving. Many people who are migrating don't have children at all.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
12. The issues that have a bigger influence on the struggles these people face include the U.S.-run drug
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:37 PM
Nov 2018

war, U.S.-funded coups and civil wars, and U.S. trade policies that make it difficult for countries to recover.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
13. You make a very good point.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:46 AM
Nov 2018

All land has a carrying capacity. Go a little above that number, and people hurt. Go a lot above that number, and people starve.

I'm not an expert on this matter. So I don't know what the carrying capacity would be for a particular region. But there must be a limit! So any attempt to eliminate the tragedy of hunger must include family planning.

Two additional comments:

1. As you noted, the Catholic Church is part of the problem. But there are many places on Earth where people starve, and the Catholic Church has no presence.

2. Corruption also plays a big role. Sometimes food aid just sits on the docks rotting. And that's because the aid workers don't have enough bribe money to get the packages moving. Maybe the UN is too weak to prevent this. Or maybe the UN is too incompetent to prevent this.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
14. Ridiculous premise with no data to substantiate it.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:15 AM
Nov 2018

The Catholic Church is the same in Italy, Ireland, and is the largest Church in the U.S. yet those countries are not in the same boat.

I am guessing you are too young to remember or were not even alive 35 years ago when the wars were ocurring in central America.

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