Dems are unifying behind Pelosi to fight GOP, Ocasio-Cortez leading the way

[sharedvalues]

Link to tweet

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@Ocasio2018
9 Dems are choosing to hold the entire 220+ caucus hostage if we don’t accept their GOP-friendly rules that will hamstring healthcare efforts from the get-go.

People sent us here to get things done, not “negotiate” with an admin that jails children and guts people’s healthcare.

The bolder is the key— get stuff done. And fight the true opponents of democracy— the GOP.

Thanks, @Ocasio2018.

Despite the rightwing media’s efforts to smear her (as Paul Ryan’s comms person did over the overblown “protest”), Ocasio-Cortez is going to be a leading progressive advocate and a constructive force.

[Tom Rinaldo]

1. I really like Ocasio-Cortez, but at this point I prefer saying she's a strong voice fighting the GOP

She's right out there on the front line, I admire her, but it is too soon to say she is "leading". Having said that, it is great that she tweeted this.

[Wintryjade]

4. "I prefer saying she's a strong voice fighting the GOP"

I feel the same.

[Wintryjade]

2. I have seen AOC working with our Democratic establishment every step of the way, while speaking out.

I find it troublesome that they put her in a position of "leadership" while so many Dems, and mostly Pelosi herself has done the work. But, I do like this woman standing up and bluntly saying this stuff. Good for her.

[marylandblue]

11. They didn't put her there, she knows how to grab attention

As long as she is working for the common good, that's okay.

[Wintryjade]

12. I disagree. I very much feel that the media did exactly that. Like in the title of this OP.

[marylandblue]

13. The media goes for compelling stories and photogenic people

She got initial attention by her surprise victory, but if she couldn't continue producing what they needed, they would have found someone else.

[Wintryjade]

14. True, and regardless, my point.

[marylandblue]

15. Ok, I just don't blame the media for it.

They go for style over substance. That's been mostly true since the day the first village gossip spread the first rumor. I just don't pay attention to most of it.

[Wintryjade]

16. I called out labeling a freshman congressperson before being sworn in as the "leader".

Media has not only defined AOC but every Democratic leader to our detriment. Why wouldn't we challenge the caricature being created? Not only because it is false, but it is wrong to put an unseasoned freshman congressperson in this position before she has even been sworn in. And it is not fair to Pelosi who has implemented her leadership ability to accomplish just this.

It matters, in my opinion.

[Fuzzpope]

27. Agreed 100%.

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Media is showing its true colors here attempting to generate hairline fractures where they know ego will resonate against erroneous data, such as an unearned title and recognition for someone else's efforts.

It all matters. It all adds up to stress, anger, and frustration.

Bear in mind, the adversary as a whole has not fully appropriated Trump's open faced alternative facts/fake news diatribe, they rely upon an older, more subtle technique of manipulation: data massaging and perception management, tools of control straight from Orwell himself.

Look out for it, because it's there. The media benefits from Republican control of the federal government.

[Wintryjade]

28. Exactly. It has had influence for working on the last two decades of elections.

[demosincebirth]

35. Amen to that!

[juxtaposed]

36. I think they go for both

[Power 2 the People]

3. Love you AOC!!

Bold and unafraid.

[Kurt V.]

5. I love AOC but she isn't leading the way.

Nancy is drawing them in.

[Wintryjade]

6. Pelosi is the example of leadership, for real. Good to see AOC on board since she is holding the

microphone. Sanders has had that microphone the last two years, and i did not feel good about that one.

[PaulX2]

7. Actually I Like Bernie Reminding Us Billionaires Are Still In Charge

And their $$ affects everyone and everything.

[Wintryjade]

8. It use to be millionaires, but that is not the issue I have with Sanders holding the Democratic

microphone.

[Me.]

10. This Conversation Is About Dems

[George II]

18. Used to be millionaires and billionaires, then just billionaires as of last year. Wonder why?

[juxtaposed]

37. I say give the mic to anyone who will make my life less oppressive

[ProfessorPlum]

46. hear fucking hear

all of this goddamned nonsense about who we want to be the leaders, their personalities, ages, experiences, party affiliations, etc. is rather completely beside the point about policy.

Let them all compete as hard as they can to talk about, and act on, making our lives better. We all win.

People act like if Bernie makes their lives better, or AOC makes their lives better, or someone else entirely makes their lives better, then it's a problem.

[msongs]

9. smart woman to adopt the strategy we recommend right here on DU! nt

[George II]

17. "Leading the way"?

[zentrum]

19. But by all means

....let's attack this young progressive "upstart", as I've seen over and over here.

I think she's the one many of us have been waiting for.

[elmac]

20. Good, unity is what we need right now more than anything

and that includes no progressive bashing on DU.

[Ponietz]

21. +1

[Wintryjade]

22. I do not think Democrats have a problem with progressives, but with populists.

Two different animals. A Democrat cannot be a liberal without being progressive. So that would be silliness to claim any liberal would be battling progressives. But, I do think the Democratic base does have an issue with populists and why I feel Sanders will not have a shot in the primaries.

[ProfessorPlum]

47. define populist

[Jarqui]

23. Cutting a deal with the GOP seems mind boggling

Work your deals out with Dems - not the GOP.

It is the Dems in the House against the GOP in the White House, Senate and Judicial branch (right leaning). They have to stick together. The GOP would love a divide and conquer in the House.

[sharedvalues]

32. Yes! That's why AOC working with Pelosi to fight the GOP is so good.

Take heart- both Ocasio-Cortez and Pelosi are great Dems who are working together. Glad to have both in Congress.

[Honeycombe8]

24. This has nothing to do with Pelosi, that I can see. Cortez doesn't mention Pelosi.

She's trying to smooth things over from her seeming to agree with the "oust Pelosi" group. She spoke approvingly of the group before and gave a reason why she didn't sign the letter. I think that she now sees her folly in her beginning day mistakes.

[Wintryjade]

25. I agree. Seems like the Democratic leadership has taken her in hand and she has listened and

learned. Hence, giving her the break. The last couple weeks she has done well being supportive of the Democratic Party which honestly, I expect from the Democrats we elect. Especially this 2018 run.

[Honeycombe8]

44. It does show promise that she learns from her mistakes. Not everyone does.

And like you say, it's important especially now that we stick together for the goals we need to accomplish. Two years will go fast.

Unlike some, though, I don't think the public issued a mandate for the Democrats to go as far left as possible. I think we were voted in to provide the checks and balance that the current House isn't doing. And that means standing up to Trump, investigations, and the like.

I don't much care if we go to the right or to the left, as long as we keep Trump and our democracy as our main goal. We must deal with Trump first and foremost, and ultimately. Unless we do that, nothing else the House accomplishes will amount to much. If we solve the Trump problem, it's entirely possible we'll also sweep in 2020.

[Wintryjade]

45. I think you are correct. I don't see a demand for the extreme left, but a counter to Trump.

[sharedvalues]

30. No, not at all. Please unify unless you have strong evidence.

Ocasio-Cortez and Pelosi are both smart.

That’s why it’s been said “few have accomplished more on their first day (working with Pelosi) than AOC.”

Check out the twitter thread here.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211448373

[Honeycombe8]

43. Everyone in Congress is smart.

Each of them has an education, some of them advanced degrees, and have accomplished the difficult task of getting elected.

[Ninsianna]

26. I am glad that the folks who have not yet been sworn in

Are "leading the way" by jumping on the bandwagon. SAlso excellent is that they're "forcing change" by protesting and demonstrating for things a leading the way data after the the thing they.wanted was revived by the.woman who started it.

This narrative is troubling. Pelosi has the support and the votes, she's being attacked in familiar ways, with the same tired talking points as that ignore her actual accomplishments.

I am glad the newbies are joining the rest if the Dem caucus to support her, if they wish to pretend to take them lead though, perhaps a few less passive aggressive attacks.

[sharedvalues]

31. AOC is unifying behind Pelosi, who is leading.

Not sure why or how you’re finding a different troubling narrative than what is said above.

Point is: Ocasio-Cortez has been good. She’s working with Pelosi. She’s a progressive voice.

Rightwing media are trying to divide Dems. We shouldn’t help them. I do not attack Dems unless there is strong strong evidence.

AOC and Pelosi are working together. They are both fighting the GOP. I’m behind both of them, and I’m interested in stopping the corrupt, autocratic party that is the Republicans.

[stuffmatters]

39. Yes Pelosi & AOC know that House Dems must stick/work together or their new power is empty.

I like the way too AOC defended Pelosi the other day against the "New Dems" She called their
campaign "going backward, non progressive"...it was a great way to shame these Wall Streeters and really effective. n.b. Fudge sure
went over to Team Pelosi pretty quickly after. Iit was a very effective one two punch from the two of them. Pelosi stood her progressive ground & used her leadership "diplomacy" to corral Fudge with committee confab; meanwhile,AOC, as the outspoken "upstart", used the press attention she's been getting to openly denounce this failed "coup" as reactionary, anti progressive.

People forget that Pelosi has been a very progressive voice her whole career. There is not much daylight between these exciting new
women coming into Congress and the fighter Pelosi has always been. They will make her way stronger, because they will be her truthsayers, just as AOC has been for her during this completely ridiculous "Five White Men" Squirmish.

[sharedvalues]

42. +1 Pelosi is one of the most effective progressives in Congress ever.

[Ninsianna]

40. well, the wording of how she's supposedly leading by joining the rest of the caucus

The point is, we have no idea how she is, since she hasn't started yet. We also know that her antic have annoyed both her constituents and those she visited in her misguided attempts to endorse terrible candidates.

It seems to me that she's the one inviting the divisiveness from the RW with the attacks and demands, she was giving them fuel. I'm glad someone with some knowledge has reined her in, it's too bad they have not explained that if she wants to get stuff done in the next 2 years, she needs to work with her colleagues, not threatening what the GOP is doing with the primary threats.

I am not helping the GOP, I simply point out the things she is saying and doing, which are. Her tweets, her videos and her comments are indeed strong evidence, blinding oneself to silly behavior is counterproductive. Feeding Fox and the GOP a narrative is divisive. Perhaps no one explained to her that what she says in podcasts and other public broadcasts are visible to anyone not wearing blinders. Some of us consider the words coming out of people's mouths and via Twitter to be strong evidence. The GOP are the ones making the case that we should ignore the evidence of our eyes and ears. Let's not emulate them.

Pelosi and the Democratic caucus are indeed working against the GOP. I'm against any divisive force attempting to endanger that, be it people with personal issues with an effective woman leading the caucus, or those who seem to forget that the alt left doesn't exist on a separate plain and we can see and hear them when they think they're having secret conversations.

She's a freshman, there is a learning period. One hopes she gets adequately trained staff to help her, I don't think Saikat is the best guide for her, given his own statements and beliefs.

I look forward to seeing how she goes about doing her job and I hope she is as good as you imagine, I personally prefer to rely on evidence and not on imagination and wishful thinking.

[oberliner]

29. Is the "jailing children" situation still ongoing?

If so, it really needs to be stopped immediately.

[Hamlette]

33. what does the problem solvers caucus want?

how will them hamstring healthcare and why?

[winstars]

34. WOW! Well Okay then. Thats the sprit. As a fellow NY'er, gotta be liking Queens...

Despite a certain dope named tRump being from there. I love Queens but this guy don't talk like he's from freakin' Manhattan or Brooklyn...

He has given Queens a black eye...



But AOC is helping big time.

IMHO.

[juxtaposed]

38. Silly question, what shoe where given for the display, Make and model? Thanks

[mcar]

41. I'm glad to see she's doing this