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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:46 PM Nov 2018

McDonald's Manager Kicks Black Teens Out After Racist Allegedly Threatens Them With a Gun




McDonald's Manager Kicks Black Teens Out After Racist Allegedly Threatens Them With a Gun
"I don't give a f**k, get out of my store now," the manager told the teens.


What started out as an ordinary trip to a Minnesota McDonald's ended up with a racist pulling a gun on a group of Somali-American teens and a manager yelling for the the group to get out, despite their lives being at risk.

In videos taken by one of the teenagers and posted to Twitter, a group of Somali-American teenagers can be seen confronting the man, who is leaving the store after yelling a racial slur at one of the kids. The man brandished his pistol threatening the teenagers. The group, immediately, turns to run away from the man and one of the teenager yells, "he has a gun." The gun cannot be seen in the video.

What started out as an ordinary trip to a Minnesota McDonald's ended up with a racist pulling a gun on a group of Somali-American teens and a manager yelling for the the group to get out, despite their lives being at risk.

In videos taken by one of the teenagers and posted to Twitter, a group of Somali-American teenagers can be seen confronting the man, who is leaving the store after yelling a racial slur at one of the kids. The man brandished his pistol threatening the teenagers. The group, immediately, turns to run away from the man and one of the teenager yells, "he has a gun." The gun cannot be seen in the video.

It took an older white gentleman who was a customer at the restaurant to explain to the "manager" that putting the the group out would be putting directly in harm's way. He then instructed her to call the police which is what should have been done on the first place.

"Don't send them off there when a dude just pulled a f**king gun on them," he says. "You've got to call the f**king cops is what you've got to do."
https://www.diversityinc.com/Organizational-Misbehavior/minnesota-mcdonalds-black-teens?utm_source=WhatCounts&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=wc-ip+1121



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McDonald's Manager Kicks Black Teens Out After Racist Allegedly Threatens Them With a Gun (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2018 OP
Someone's going to be out of a job soon, Hav Nov 2018 #1
Well, the kids have black skin so, jeeze, ya never know what they might do.... pangaia Nov 2018 #30
A man has been arrested exboyfil Nov 2018 #2
MCDonalds Manager Fail.... SimpleC Nov 2018 #3
She's going to be fired Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #20
As a matter of fact... SimpleC Nov 2018 #4
Why? jpak Nov 2018 #5
Because once in a scary situation... and let her reflect... SimpleC Nov 2018 #6
Another weird slant... SimpleC Nov 2018 #7
Thanks for your response. Delphinus Nov 2018 #8
I'm trying to be real... :) SimpleC Nov 2018 #10
From a liability viewpoint, she put the franchise owner and their insurance company at risk of huge salin Nov 2018 #16
I think one could argue it either way on the liability front jberryhill Nov 2018 #37
No it's exactly why she should be let go nini Nov 2018 #27
I wouldnt Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #21
She's going to be fired. Her next line of work should be... SMC22307 Nov 2018 #54
What's their address? Yosemito Nov 2018 #60
The manager is a woman. nt tblue37 Nov 2018 #66
Good God! How many of these videos of store managers failing AAs are we going to see? brush Nov 2018 #9
One of the Smartest PeopleI I ever met in my life was a black person... SimpleC Nov 2018 #11
As I said, every one of these store managers in these videos side against black people. brush Nov 2018 #12
And it will have an effect... SimpleC Nov 2018 #13
Nah, you need to stop and admit the obvious. brush Nov 2018 #14
I'm very sensitive SimpleC Nov 2018 #17
So why are you denying the obvious in this incident? brush Nov 2018 #22
I've been in two WARS... SimpleC Nov 2018 #25
She wouldn't have done that to a group of white kids. brush Nov 2018 #28
She reacted according to her training and upbring :) SimpleC Nov 2018 #31
Weak. She obviously was poorly trained. And I agree, she reacted to her upbringing... brush Nov 2018 #35
In a combat situation.... SimpleC Nov 2018 #39
It's a restaurant, not combat. She wouldn't have done that to white teens. brush Nov 2018 #40
OOOOO.... SimpleC Nov 2018 #42
Hey Brush... SimpleC Nov 2018 #43
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #44
I want to hear you out... :) SimpleC Nov 2018 #45
I just got to ask.... quickesst Nov 2018 #59
God! Have you been in a cave the last year or so? Have you not heard of... brush Nov 2018 #64
It is apparent to me quickesst Nov 2018 #71
Feel free to live in your imaginary world where there is no inherent racism... brush Nov 2018 #78
The previous examples you presented... quickesst Nov 2018 #79
You think she panicked because of a gunman (who had left btw)... brush Nov 2018 #80
Okay quickesst Nov 2018 #81
You've been in 'combat.' Yeah, we know, You keep reminding us. pangaia Nov 2018 #55
"brakes" - lol jpak Nov 2018 #57
White racists are always trained according to their "upbringing" jpak Nov 2018 #56
SimpleC violetpastille Nov 2018 #58
Bullshit. by the video, at least, he wanted the black kids out. NOT the white guy. pangaia Nov 2018 #32
She. The manager is female. nt tblue37 Nov 2018 #67
Right, sorry, my too quick mistake.. pangaia Nov 2018 #70
that white guy intervened to defend the black kids who she was trying to kick out JI7 Nov 2018 #63
She incorrectly reacted Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #23
What a stupid response jpak Nov 2018 #26
I had a long winded response to your post... SimpleC Nov 2018 #29
What a cool story - thanks for sharing jpak Nov 2018 #46
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #47
"You're" jpak Nov 2018 #48
Why are your being so cruel? SimpleC Nov 2018 #49
Because you're so cruel to the Somalis that were harassed and threatened at that McDs jpak Nov 2018 #50
"One of the Smartest PeopleI I ever met in my life was a black person..." pangaia Nov 2018 #33
Walter Scott SimpleC Nov 2018 #34
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #36
The first refuge of a racist jpak Nov 2018 #52
Boy, tell me. I cannot BELIEVE all those statements. pangaia Nov 2018 #72
What a shame, the ONLY one. I wish I had gotten to know him, the only one ... marble falls Nov 2018 #68
I remember knowing a really smart black person too. pangaia Nov 2018 #74
Thanks, same to you! My problem has been all the stupid wypipo I've run into, including members ... marble falls Nov 2018 #82
So another one.. Being Black Cha Nov 2018 #15
What do you think McDonald's should do? oberliner Nov 2018 #18
Give her some time off SimpleC Nov 2018 #19
Fire her. Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #24
Maybe you and SimpleC should discuss that. What would you do? marble falls Nov 2018 #69
I worked at a Maccas in the 90's (NewZealand) brettdale Nov 2018 #38
Thank you... :) SimpleC Nov 2018 #41
What about common sense? - The manager sounds like a psychopath in the video. womanofthehills Nov 2018 #51
She was probably terrified. Kentonio Nov 2018 #61
In this day and age it is inexcusable that store owners (and I doubt that she owned that store) Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #53
good for that white guy who called out the manager's shit JI7 Nov 2018 #62
Yes, he was a stand-up guy and the manager should've listened to him. brush Nov 2018 #65
Indeed ck4829 Nov 2018 #73
Good they arrested the terrorist ck4829 Nov 2018 #75
Well, when I first saw this video on another site... LuckyCharms Nov 2018 #76
McDonald's and other stores and restaurants should face reality MountCleaners Nov 2018 #77

Hav

(5,969 posts)
1. Someone's going to be out of a job soon,
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:58 PM
Nov 2018

that'll be the end of "her" store. Shouldn't take longer than till the end of the week.
Sending kids into danger and telling them there is a reason the gun was pulled makes you one sorry excuse for a human being.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. Well, the kids have black skin so, jeeze, ya never know what they might do....
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:11 PM
Nov 2018


like order a whopper

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
3. MCDonalds Manager Fail....
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 08:06 PM
Nov 2018

She was placed in a scary situation and she failed...

I don't think she was being racist so much as she panicked...

As a Veteran who's been shot at.... had rocks thrown at them....

She Froze...

It happens...


 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
20. She's going to be fired
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:44 PM
Nov 2018

Denied Ui as well. She better find another line of work. Maybe dogshit gatherer for piecemeal work.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
6. Because once in a scary situation... and let her reflect...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 08:24 PM
Nov 2018

There's probably a thousand things she wished she had done differently...

In a weird way... she's now a vet....

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
7. Another weird slant...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 08:35 PM
Nov 2018

Had I been there... I might have chased him down resulting in my death or him getting seriously hurt,,,

Some people are not equipped for those choices..

I don't know.. I wasn't there...

salin

(48,955 posts)
16. From a liability viewpoint, she put the franchise owner and their insurance company at risk of huge
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:38 PM
Nov 2018

cost.

Granted, if they own part of that liability if they haven't given emergency situation training.

Despite the racial overtone (or not) - this was a horrible safety risk/legal liability.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. I think one could argue it either way on the liability front
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:25 PM
Nov 2018

There's a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't element.

He shelters the kids, the gunman comes back and shoots up the place, including other customers, whose lawyers argue that the manager's actions jeopardized the lives of the other customers.

Does he end up locking the door? I can't get video at the moment.

nini

(16,672 posts)
27. No it's exactly why she should be let go
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:56 PM
Nov 2018

She did not handle it the right way and lives were at risk because of that.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
54. She's going to be fired. Her next line of work should be...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:23 PM
Nov 2018

one in which she doesn't need to be quick thinking on her feet. It would probably be a good idea if she stayed away from jobs in which she's required to deal with a demanding -- and often gun-totin'-- public. I guarantee if those had been white Minnesotan teens she would have behaved differently... you know it, too.

 

Yosemito

(648 posts)
60. What's their address?
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:41 AM
Nov 2018

Give me the McDonald's location so I can find out the phone number and call the manager out over the phone if he is still there.

brush

(53,784 posts)
9. Good God! How many of these videos of store managers failing AAs are we going to see?
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 08:46 PM
Nov 2018

They're always white and they always side against black people.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
11. One of the Smartest PeopleI I ever met in my life was a black person...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:02 PM
Nov 2018

I reviewed the video myself... this wasn't a manager on a racist rant... this was a woman who panicked...


Cut her some slack I say...

brush

(53,784 posts)
12. As I said, every one of these store managers in these videos side against black people.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:05 PM
Nov 2018

You'd think that at least one would take the time and listen to a black customer's side of the story.

But no, the systemic racism in the country is on display in video after video after video after video...

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
13. And it will have an effect...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:21 PM
Nov 2018

My point... in this particular video... the Manager is not being racist...

She panicked.... she didn't know what to do in this crisis... and she froze... and wanted everyone out...


The person in this clip she's arguing with is a white dude...…


Just because there was black people present doesn't make it a racist thing...


We need to STOP that shit...

brush

(53,784 posts)
14. Nah, you need to stop and admit the obvious.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:24 PM
Nov 2018

She heard the sensible white guy tell her the kids may get shot but she kept yelling for them to get out.

No way would she have yelled that to a group of white kids threatened with a gun.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
17. I'm very sensitive
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:38 PM
Nov 2018

to the racism in America...the solution in my opinion is to be real...

Racism works BOTH ways...I've actually HEARD this from black people... I'm Black... I CAN'T be racist....

My answer... is YES... you can be BLACK and RACIST....

Let me share for a second...

In my upbringing,,, when they desegregated schools... I was bussed to a primarily black school...

I was a book geek and didn't understand what was going... just give me my books and I'll be ok...

I was tortured for the crime of being WHITE.... so NO.... RACISM works BOTH WAYS!!!!

brush

(53,784 posts)
22. So why are you denying the obvious in this incident?
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:47 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:06 AM - Edit history (1)

And try looking up racism as there's a difference between it and prejudice. Power dynamics, you know.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
25. I've been in two WARS...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:50 PM
Nov 2018

I saw a gal panicking...

I didn't see a KKK bitch Screaming Hang them...


WTF?....

brush

(53,784 posts)
35. Weak. She obviously was poorly trained. And I agree, she reacted to her upbringing...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:23 PM
Nov 2018

which makes my case about systemic racism in the country.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
39. In a combat situation....
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:33 PM
Nov 2018

Everyone reacts differently... think about it...

She's a manager of Mcdonalds…. she's worried about patties and bun inventory....

A hostile situation brakes out,,, she panics...

I guess my point... I didn't see a racist slant in this confrontation....

Just because there was black people there... doesn't make it a racist slant....

brush

(53,784 posts)
40. It's a restaurant, not combat. She wouldn't have done that to white teens.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:36 PM
Nov 2018

You're new here. Listen and learn.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
42. OOOOO....
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:39 PM
Nov 2018

At first I didn't catch that,,,

Listen and learn...

I'm sitting down and listening....

TEACH ME... LOL

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
43. Hey Brush...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:46 PM
Nov 2018

You've got my attention...

I really need to be schooled...

I'm ready for your teaching...

Response to brush (Reply #40)

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
59. I just got to ask....
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:26 AM
Nov 2018

"she wouldn't have done that to white teens."


How do you know? Wouldn't your answer require the situation with white kids actually take place, or at least some power of prognostication/ESP Etc on your part? Or are you assuming? Just asking.

brush

(53,784 posts)
64. God! Have you been in a cave the last year or so? Have you not heard of...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:18 AM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:09 AM - Edit history (1)

BBQ Becky, Permit Patty, Pool Patrol Paula, the racist Starbucks manager throwing out the waiting black guys, and all the unarmed black guys killed by cops—and on and on and on?

None of those incidents happened to white people, just black people.

I'll attribute your post to naivete instead of "someone playing dumb."

Deal?

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
71. It is apparent to me
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 12:32 PM
Nov 2018

.... that you are incapable of differentiating between the people you mention who are textbook examples of outright racists and the completely different situation this girl was confronted with. Now I'm not asking. I am telling you that you are making an accusation based solely on assumption and arriving at that conclusion with what you perceive as evidence when only two facts connect the situation being discussed and the examples you present as "proof" she would have acted differently had the young men been white. #1. There was a minority involved. #2. There was a white person involved. Other than that, there are zero similarities between this situation and those you offer up as proof. No deal.

brush

(53,784 posts)
78. Feel free to live in your imaginary world where there is no inherent racism...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:52 PM
Nov 2018

in this country despite the many, many blatant examples of it we witness over and over again.

This one was "being a teen in a fast food joint while black" and you don't want to admit it for some reason.

The manager was throwing the teens out in to the parking lot where the gunman who threatened them was.

Duh!

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
79. The previous examples you presented...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:08 PM
Nov 2018

.... are good examples of inherent racism. I simply believe this girl's reaction was out of panic and fear with no racist intent and she would have reacted the same way no matter who was present. At least my opinion is based upon real world evidence in the video and not an assumption made based upon completely different situations that have very little in common. That you have made an accusation based upon nothing but assumption is a fact. Nothing will change that.

brush

(53,784 posts)
80. You think she panicked because of a gunman (who had left btw)...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:22 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 22, 2018, 03:02 PM - Edit history (1)

I think she panicked because she was confronted with a room full of scared black kids, which scared her.

This and the other examples I gave are all of a piece—the below the surface and barely concealed, inherent racism in the country.

I'm African American so it's no surprise to me.



quickesst

(6,280 posts)
81. Okay
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:51 PM
Nov 2018

I will concede that she shouldn't have thrown them out, but I am not convinced that she would not have thrown out a bunch of white kids if the roles were reversed. I think she would have thrown anyone out of her place just to get the situation removed from her location. Ask me about any of your previous examples of inherent racism and you will get a completely different answer from me. I'll leave it at that.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
58. SimpleC
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:45 PM
Nov 2018

Racism isn't always

a KKK bitch Screaming Hang them...


Sometimes racism is just letting someone die. Passively.

And as we see so often with the police sometimes racism is "panicking".

JI7

(89,251 posts)
63. that white guy intervened to defend the black kids who she was trying to kick out
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:17 AM
Nov 2018

where the piece of shit with a gun was threatening them.

she wasn't talking to him when she told them to get out.

 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
23. She incorrectly reacted
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:49 PM
Nov 2018

As an owner and operator, I would be extremely concerned about the downtread of the store and take action before it goes too unprofitable for Mickey D to revoke that franchise. Therefore, I would fire the fuck out of the manager, close the store for a day for race relation training then move on.

Also deny UI.

But I don't own Mickey D franchise.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
29. I had a long winded response to your post...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:08 PM
Nov 2018

Keyboard issue erased it...

Scott was his last name.... In my lifetime, he was the smartest person I ever met...

Total Genius... he helped me through A school in the Military...

After A school... I met up with him in Japan... he was diagnosed with MS...

It broke my heart to see such a mind gone....


We had such COOL convos...

Response to jpak (Reply #46)

jpak

(41,758 posts)
50. Because you're so cruel to the Somalis that were harassed and threatened at that McDs
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:02 PM
Nov 2018

Boo Fucking Hoo.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. "One of the Smartest PeopleI I ever met in my life was a black person..."
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:16 PM
Nov 2018

Really ? Who ? Maybe I know him or her..

Response to pangaia (Reply #33)

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
68. What a shame, the ONLY one. I wish I had gotten to know him, the only one ...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:19 AM
Nov 2018

Doesn't that Simple get how he sounds saying that stuff???

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
74. I remember knowing a really smart black person too.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 12:38 PM
Nov 2018

It was a woman, my girlfriend, in fact in..1970.. in Memphis.



Happy turkey day.

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
82. Thanks, same to you! My problem has been all the stupid wypipo I've run into, including members ...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:36 PM
Nov 2018

my own family!

Cha

(297,275 posts)
15. So another one.. Being Black
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:25 PM
Nov 2018

while threatened with a gun. What's mcdonald's gonna do about this travesty?

brettdale

(12,381 posts)
38. I worked at a Maccas in the 90's (NewZealand)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:29 PM
Nov 2018

There is no way, the managers were trained for this type of situation,
heck we had some managers that were still at High School.

Way way out of depth, and she shouldnt be expected to handle a situation
where someone pulls a gun.

In this case, I dont think its racist.

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
51. What about common sense? - The manager sounds like a psychopath in the video.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:06 PM
Nov 2018

She has no empathy. Reminds me of our president.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
61. She was probably terrified.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:07 AM
Nov 2018

She was just at work one minute, and the next minute there's a gun being waved around, people running and a general sense of chaos. She could certainly have handled it better, but until anyone is in a situation like that, they have no real idea how they'll react.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
53. In this day and age it is inexcusable that store owners (and I doubt that she owned that store)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:21 PM
Nov 2018

operators and managers do not have some degree of training in situations such as this. It has been the norm for decades, but now is more important than ever given that we have a WH that encourages people to believe that violence with a gun is the go-to manner in which to handle any situation that doesn't go their way.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
76. Well, when I first saw this video on another site...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 12:40 PM
Nov 2018

my first response was that the manager lost her shit and had no idea how to respond to the situation.

Is she a racist?

I don't know because there is not enough information in the video that would allow me to call her a racist. I do not know if her actions were driven by race. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't.

If I was inclined to view every confrontation between people of different races as a racist act, I could definitely argue that she is a racist. I'm not inclined to do that though. I think it may have been more of a panic situation. But again, I really have no idea. Not enough info.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
77. McDonald's and other stores and restaurants should face reality
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:07 PM
Nov 2018

Racist and religiously bigoted behavior is a PROBLEM in these public accommodations. Just as Starbucks had to learn, they need to prepare their managers to deal with incidents like this. It is interfering with people's right to patronize an establishment. So yeah, the businesses ARE responsible for protecting their patrons from harassment and threats. No, they aren't equipped to handle someone with a gun, but fair treatment of customers ought to be a priority. It's good for business anyway. And why can't these places make a statement that ALL are welcome in their establishment and that harassment will not be tolerated? Why would it hurt to have a little sticker at the entrance indicating so - they already have a bazillion stickers / notices and signs at the entrance?

Society in general has a responsibility to protect and defend people's right to, uh, just be in public. We should all do more, but corporations should set a standard.

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