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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:22 PM Nov 2018

Do you stand with Chief Justice Roberts or Dirty Donald Trump?


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Do you stand with Chief Justice Roberts or Dirty Donald Trump? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 OP
I agree with Roberts -- on this point. madamesilverspurs Nov 2018 #1
Precisely Generic Brad Nov 2018 #13
Why would any Democrat stand with either of those people? oberliner Nov 2018 #2
Because he stood for the rule of law and put a dunce cap on Trump DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #3
When someone is right about a thing, they are right about a thing. Same when they are wrong. phleshdef Nov 2018 #5
Except Trump is never right about anything! DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #7
Even if he is slightly right, its completely by accident and means nothing. phleshdef Nov 2018 #8
Chief Justice Roberts needs to remind Trump..... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2018 #4
I have a feeling that it will when Trump decides to start ignoring SC decisions Volaris Nov 2018 #9
Neither lpbk2713 Nov 2018 #6
Neither. I remember when DU was incensed that Roberts was the nominee fescuerescue Nov 2018 #10
Nah. He's been a mixed bag. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #11
Very reasonable position fescuerescue Nov 2018 #17
Why thank you. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #18
Just because I agree with someone one time doesn't mean I stand with them. n/t cynatnite Nov 2018 #12
Neither. Roberts decision on the voting rights act have cost dems offices in the south. SweetieD Nov 2018 #14
Trump is correct. mr_liberal Nov 2018 #15
If judges are crypto partisans ... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #19
Neither...one's a sociopath and the other gave us Citizens' United. pecosbob Nov 2018 #16
+1 Sunsky Nov 2018 #21
SCOTUS brought this kind of thinking upon themselves with Bush v. Gore Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #20

madamesilverspurs

(15,805 posts)
1. I agree with Roberts -- on this point.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:41 PM
Nov 2018

But I can't stand with someone who gutted the Voting Rights Act. I don't trust him.

Call me picky, but there you go.


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Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
13. Precisely
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:33 PM
Nov 2018

If we are limited to this single topic, clearly Roberts is correct. Everything else, not so much.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
4. Chief Justice Roberts needs to remind Trump.....
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:44 PM
Nov 2018


That the Supreme Court does NOT work for him or is subjected to orders by him. THAT needs to be made crystal clear.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
9. I have a feeling that it will when Trump decides to start ignoring SC decisions
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:28 PM
Nov 2018

ON EDIT:
let's not forget who Roberts IS--in this order he's a

Defender of the Institutional Court
CORPORATIST
Republican
Catholic

There are days when that order will break in our favor (see the ACA and Obgerfell decisions).

There are days when it won't.

If Trump thinks he's gonna attack Rober's Court as an institution, he's gonna be in for a WORLDS WORTH of Hurt.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
10. Neither. I remember when DU was incensed that Roberts was the nominee
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:51 PM
Nov 2018

and we discussed at length how terrible he is.

I wouldn't be surprised that in 10 years, someone will be asking if we stand with (evil republican to be named), or Kavanaugh.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
11. Nah. He's been a mixed bag.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:22 PM
Nov 2018

While we have to rightly condemn the voting rights vote we can’t forget the ACA and marriage equality.

He they gave us the fix for the voting rights thing: apply it to all states not just the ones with a history of racial discrimination. It should be our first act when regain total control.

But I totally agree. He is a lost cause when it comes to corporate rights.

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
15. Trump is correct.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:51 PM
Nov 2018

Many judges are partisan and Presidents do get the kind of judges (liberal or conservative) that they want.

Roberts comment is the proper thing to say and what he must say, but we know its not true. If it was it wouldn't matter who the President is or what judges he nominated.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. If judges are crypto partisans ...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:18 AM
Nov 2018

If judges are crypto partisans why did RBG and Stephen Breyer vote against Bill Clinton in Clinton V Jones?

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
16. Neither...one's a sociopath and the other gave us Citizens' United.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:11 PM
Nov 2018

I think this is simply a bit of theater.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
20. SCOTUS brought this kind of thinking upon themselves with Bush v. Gore
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:32 AM
Nov 2018

No one should be surprised that the courts are thought of as a political tool after Bush v. Gore. After over 200 years of the court hesitating to "enter the political thicket" lest they be considered as a part of party politics, SCOTUS stepped in, stopped the State of Florida from counting its votes and awarded the Presidency to George W Bush with all 5 Republican justices joining in the decision and all 4 Democrats against it.

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