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ck4829

(35,077 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:41 AM Nov 2018

There are two Saudi Arabias

One of pleasure and power, one where people have licenses to kill, one of political games.

And another one where talking to an unrelated person of another gender, where participation in politics, and 'witchcraft' can all get you thrown in jail indefinitely.

Knowing this, it makes sense why the right wing Evangelicals are becoming increasingly interested in Saudi politics and culture.

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There are two Saudi Arabias (Original Post) ck4829 Nov 2018 OP
My experience... SimpleC Nov 2018 #1
+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #2
Let's take out Afganistan... SimpleC Nov 2018 #3
republicans deliberately ignored that the attack on 9/11 came from Saudis Achilleaze Nov 2018 #8
It was Edward Said who said the west sees the Middle East as either oil-suppliers or terrorists ck4829 Nov 2018 #4
I want to see trumps tax returns... SimpleC Nov 2018 #5
Well, someone differs: ret5hd Nov 2018 #10
There are two Saudi Arabias, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #6
The first is great if you're in the House of Saud ck4829 Nov 2018 #7
I know nurse who hired on at a hospital over there ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #9
I don't know how to explain it... SimpleC Nov 2018 #11
 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
1. My experience...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:52 AM
Nov 2018

With Saudi Arabian Culture...

They Hate us Americans... but suffer us because we are considered allies...

I've been in countries all over the world but never felt more unwelcome then in Saudi Arabia...

They can kiss my ass as far as I'm concerned...

Oh... and I want to see trump's taxes..

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. republicans deliberately ignored that the attack on 9/11 came from Saudis
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:51 AM
Nov 2018

And almost all the attackers who killed thousands of Americans were in fact Saudis. The republicans kissed Saudi ass then, and they are kissing it again today.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
4. It was Edward Said who said the west sees the Middle East as either oil-suppliers or terrorists
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:26 AM
Nov 2018

We create a dichotomy where the other, the middle eastern Muslim, either upholds our civilization or they are out to destroy it.

Saudi Arabia is clearly playing both sides of that.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
10. Well, someone differs:
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 12:01 PM
Nov 2018
https://stepfeed.com/anthony-bourdain-showed-a-lot-of-love-for-the-arab-world-here-s-a-closer-look-7329

In 2008, Bourdain took his show to Saudi Arabia. While now, a decade later, Saudi Arabia is moving quickly to modernize and open up to the rest of the world, things were a bit different when the celebrity chef visited. Nonetheless, he traveled to Saudi Arabia with the desire to show an honest and non-judgmental perspective of the kingdom.

"He experienced everything with an open mind and an open heart and relayed it very beautifully in the episode," Danya Alhamrani wrote for Elle on Friday, discussing her time hosting Bourdain. "I remember him telling me not to read the comments when the show aired; he felt people are cruel in general when commenting from behind the safety of a computer screen. But when the episode went live, the response was overwhelming positive."

Alhamrani goes on to point out that the episode is still, 10 years later, one of the few widely seen positive representations of the kingdom.

"To this day, 10 years later, I’m still told by people I meet that the only good thing they see online about Saudi Arabia is the episode of No Reservations," she wrote.


I wonder who I should believe?

ismnotwasm

(41,982 posts)
9. I know nurse who hired on at a hospital over there
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 12:00 PM
Nov 2018

She said, amount other things, that there is a preference for white, blond nurses—-as a sign of status. That members of the royal family (it’s a big family) will show up with a relatively benign headache and expect royal, and extensive treatment. I forget what all she said, but she thought that a number of members of the Royal family had mental health issues.

She said very rich kids crashed expensive Hummers out in the desert for fun.

There were the usual restrictions and severe punishment for drinking alcohol, and she had to stay around places that were safe for her. She said she wouldn’t do it again.

Edit to add, Saudi sex/slave traffickers are very busy and seem to face zero consequences

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
11. I don't know how to explain it...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 12:27 PM
Nov 2018

I've circled this globe at least three times.... I've been in Norway, France, Italy, Japan, India.. ect...ect…

Fuck it... I've been in a LOT of places... Ok... I've been around...

Saudi Arabia was one of those places I felt the least unwelcome... FUCK THEM... hold on... I'm having flash back about that place...

Holy Shit... I remember them... They cloke thier women...they were rude to us and made it known to us they didn't want us there... their whole mentality was they liked our $$ but they didn't want us...

If they didn't have oil... we would be appaled by thier country...

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