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Quixote1818

(28,976 posts)
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 05:40 PM Nov 2018

Retired general calls Trump 'a failure' after president slams Navy SEAL who killed Osama bin Laden

‘Disgusting’: Retired general calls Trump ‘a failure’ after president slams Navy SEAL who killed Osama bin Laden

Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling on Sunday said that President Donald Trump’s treatment of a retired Navy admiral is “disgusting” after the president claimed that the former SEAL had taken too long to kill Osama bin Laden.

During an interview with Fox News, Trump lashed out at retired Navy Admiral William H. McRaven, who lead the effort to take down the terrorist mastermind.

“He’s a Hillary Clinton backer!” the president insisted. “It would be nice if we got Osama bin Laden a lot sooner.”

Hertling later told CNN’s Fredricka Whitfield that Trump had insulted a “true servant” of the U.S. Constitution.

“I’d use one word,” Hertling said. “And that’s ‘disgusting.’ You know, everyone knows Bill McRaven as being the guy that led the bin Laden raid.”

“Having someone like the president of the United States, a man that holds an office that’s supposed to represent all people and who says he supports the military, to just dismiss this great American hero as a guy who was a Hillary Clinton lover, which is patently not true, is just really disgusting,” he explained.

More: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/disgusting-retired-general-calls-trump-failure-president-slams-navy-seal-killed-osama-bin-laden/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Retired general calls Trump 'a failure' after president slams Navy SEAL who killed Osama bin Laden (Original Post) Quixote1818 Nov 2018 OP
Thus my nickname...The Cretin. It's the only word I could come up with libdem4life Nov 2018 #1
Trump despises every thing that he is not. Brave, honest, respectful, faithful are his unknowns. olegramps Nov 2018 #63
This is the kind of story the troops hear about, in addition to troops having to do 'wall duty' empedocles Nov 2018 #2
K&R... spanone Nov 2018 #3
I'm looking forward to hearing 45 tear down nuns, teachers, and hospice workers, too. lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #4
He already went as low as criticizing a Gold Star family NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #6
Absolutely. Republicans do all the time. sandensea Nov 2018 #7
But wait!!! MyOwnPeace Nov 2018 #9
Do as I say, not as I do. sandensea Nov 2018 #21
He's already insulted teachers, don't worry. LisaM Nov 2018 #40
Yet republicans submissively worship their draft-dodging casino hustler Achilleaze Nov 2018 #5
Adm. McRaven had a distinguished career of almost four decades in the USN, and saw active combat RHMerriman Nov 2018 #8
...and a fraud and a sham and an incompetent and a.... sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #51
and a psychopathic lunatic. honest.abe Nov 2018 #54
Why does he hates Admirals and Generals so much? SummerSnow Nov 2018 #55
Because by their very existence and honor, they make plain his dishonor Achilleaze Nov 2018 #57
You are spot on, he is exposed by the honor alone cause he has no honor. SummerSnow Nov 2018 #58
Jealousy. Envy. That's the ticket. sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #69
Because they remind Trump what an insignificant servile little worm he is... RHMerriman Nov 2018 #70
And Cadet Bonespurs knows....... SergeStorms Nov 2018 #10
A new low for Rump Danascot Nov 2018 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author catbyte Nov 2018 #12
I doubt it dansolo Nov 2018 #14
No. McRaven is a Democrat. Shame his cancer flared back up, he would have made a superb Celerity Nov 2018 #24
Orange Fuck is too nice a term to describe this piece of shit squatting in the White House. 47of74 Nov 2018 #13
No one in the military should back this guy duforsure Nov 2018 #15
Do you think 2naSalit Nov 2018 #53
I agree duforsure Nov 2018 #56
Don the Con is a vile cretin- malaise Nov 2018 #16
Your description of him is far too kind. xor Nov 2018 #18
You are correct malaise Nov 2018 #19
It amazes me that Trump still has supporters. xor Nov 2018 #17
Trump: That kid ain't right alfredo Nov 2018 #20
Donald loves him some bin Laden keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #22
If President Obama Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #27
Big brain Rumpy strikes again.... a true asshat NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #23
McRaven had several great flaws (in Trump's eyes) vlyons Nov 2018 #25
so let's keep score........ Takket Nov 2018 #26
Destroyed the GI Bill payments UpInArms Nov 2018 #35
Veteran here.. Permanut Nov 2018 #49
Female here UpInArms Nov 2018 #59
Now both Papa and W need to speak out and Mrs. both Mrs. Bush. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #28
Babs is dead. Maru Kitteh Nov 2018 #30
OH shit, forgot, my bad. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #31
Trump is only the president of the people who still support him. GETPLANING Nov 2018 #29
100% of Trump supporters support Trump. xor Nov 2018 #34
A craven piece of crap. warmfeet Nov 2018 #32
Let's put him high security in Colorado UpInArms Nov 2018 #37
BTW Hertling, there is NOTHING wrong with being a Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #33
My how small this excuse for a person who calls KPN Nov 2018 #36
Small withered soul sums it up perfectly. nancy1942 Nov 2018 #48
Being a fan of Hillary should not be an insult superpatriotman Nov 2018 #38
There's something very wrong with Trump, I tell you. With his mind. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #39
Thats what I think jcgoldie Nov 2018 #42
LOL! Funny. And true. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #43
That's a fact. You said a mouthful.👍 sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #52
One of these days he is going to totally lose control in a press briefing Quixote1818 Nov 2018 #44
The putting a disguise on to vote thing was one that left mouths gaping in shock. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #45
He's an asshole. Has always been an asshole. Will continue to be an asshole until he dies. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2018 #46
He's the AOAA's.... Heartstrings Nov 2018 #64
trump is a TRAITOR ..... . what do we do to traitors? (Hint ::: think French Revolution) trueblue2007 Nov 2018 #41
Red Don insulting America's heroes makes Putin all tingly uponit7771 Nov 2018 #47
"It would be nice if we got Osama bin Laden a lot sooner." C Moon Nov 2018 #50
I Recall Them Saying, After Couple Years. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #62
Trump can not be taken on face value with stuff like this. Mr. Bob Harris Nov 2018 #60
Mr. Retired General weakened his argument and lost the high ground when he added that Nitram Nov 2018 #61
So weird to attack a traditionally Republican groups such as the military Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #65
hye, you tangerine traitor, WHY didn't you give us the benefit of your military experitse YEARS niyad Nov 2018 #66
Perhaps the silver lining in all that is there is less chance the military would step in LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #67
Shut the fuck up, Donnie! red dog 1 Nov 2018 #68
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
1. Thus my nickname...The Cretin. It's the only word I could come up with
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:01 PM
Nov 2018

that comes close to his everyday actions and deeds.

Definition of cretin
1 often offensive : one afflicted with cretinism
2 informal : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : CLOD, LOUT

About covers it.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
63. Trump despises every thing that he is not. Brave, honest, respectful, faithful are his unknowns.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:34 AM
Nov 2018

A hollow creature without a conscience and devoid of empathy. He lashes out like a blind enraged monster. Everything he he touches is corrupted with it particular stench. He is a rare creature; a cretin without one redeeming characteristic. Uninhibited, he would take his place among those whose names are met with intense revulsion.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. This is the kind of story the troops hear about, in addition to troops having to do 'wall duty'
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nov 2018

on Thanksgiving for trump's political theatrics.

lindysalsagal

(20,733 posts)
4. I'm looking forward to hearing 45 tear down nuns, teachers, and hospice workers, too.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018

Because he's running out of people to insult.

sandensea

(21,670 posts)
7. Absolutely. Republicans do all the time.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:27 PM
Nov 2018

Them, and anyone who doesn't fit the fascist fantasy.

So then, I wonder what they think when they look at the mirror.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. Yet republicans submissively worship their draft-dodging casino hustler
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018

Deplorable. republican values are formed of cesspool scum.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
8. Adm. McRaven had a distinguished career of almost four decades in the USN, and saw active combat
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nov 2018

Adm. McRaven had a distinguished career of almost four decades in the USN, and saw active combat service in multiple conflicts over that period; he is a recipient of the DSM (twice), Legion of Merit, Bronze Star, etc.

As an example of the type of leader he is, here's his commencement speech at UT:

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Adm. McRaven is a man of demonstrated courage, dignity, integrity, daring, audacity, intelligence, and professionalism; he is a true patriot and and an exemplar of an officer, a leader, and a sailor.

Mr. Trump is a coward, a criminal, and a traitor.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
57. Because by their very existence and honor, they make plain his dishonor
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:55 AM
Nov 2018

He's a liar, a cheat, a casino hustler, a sex predator, and a freaking five-time republican draft dodger. He has bullshit and bravado. But no honor. So when America's men and women of honor and valor rise to public attention, the republican sicko is nakedly exposed by comparison.

You have to be damn far gone down the koolaid road to pretend you don't see the dishonor writ large all over the republican misleader, and his cabal of subby republican symps.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
58. You are spot on, he is exposed by the honor alone cause he has no honor.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 08:40 AM
Nov 2018

Could it be jealousy too? Just like he attacks NFL players cause he always wanted to be athletic

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
70. Because they remind Trump what an insignificant servile little worm he is...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:24 PM
Nov 2018

Because they remind Trump what an insignificant servile little worm he is...

As always, he's a coward, but he hates being reminded of that reality. He's still the same scared, twisted little Mama's boy his father was disgusted by; there's a reason they sent him away to a military high school to "grow up," but he never did.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
10. And Cadet Bonespurs knows.......
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:42 PM
Nov 2018
all about the military, correct? Cadet Bonespurs knows exactly what it takes to plan a mission like that, to infiltrate a hostile country to undertake it, and to execute that plan despite myriad exigencies that arose during it's completion. Yep, Cadet Bonespurs knows all, and is eminently qualified to make such assertions.

As if it's needed..........

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Celerity

(43,531 posts)
24. No. McRaven is a Democrat. Shame his cancer flared back up, he would have made a superb
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:46 PM
Nov 2018

VP for a Kamala Harris-topped ticket.

2naSalit

(86,794 posts)
53. Do you think
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 04:42 AM
Nov 2018

that he went this route decades ago because he couldn't stand being such a loser? Serial, he can't take not being praised and he bombed out in the US so he has, maybe been on a grudge for this long and has vowed to bring us down for not adoring him? like that fucking nightmare in Santa Barbara who killed a bunch of people because he couldn't get laid? I've been wondering if that is his twisted rationale for his desire to destroy the country.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
56. I agree
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:24 AM
Nov 2018

I think this has been brewing for a long while his hatred for this country, and for greed and sold us out to putin.

xor

(1,204 posts)
18. Your description of him is far too kind.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:19 PM
Nov 2018

I don't think words actually exist yet to describe him.

xor

(1,204 posts)
17. It amazes me that Trump still has supporters.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:18 PM
Nov 2018

To see the cultist continue to defend him despite the fact he goes after so many people and institutions that conservatives always viewed as a sacred cows is amazing. Even more amazing considering his criticisms are not even close to being rational in any way.

It's interesting too because I also follow a fair number of conservatives on twitter, and they they despise Trump as much as any of the more liberal folks I follow. Those conservatives also have many regular folks followers who seem to consider themselves conservatives often times comment how much they dislike Trump and no longer consider themselves republicans. Unlike the fake "walk away" idiocy, these people are actual people. I don't see how Trump can continue to have any sort of popularity when everyone who is even slight left despises him and so many people who are on the right also despise him.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
27. If President Obama
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:59 PM
Nov 2018

had cured cancer, trmp would bring that back too.

How much longer must we deal with his stupidity ?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
25. McRaven had several great flaws (in Trump's eyes)
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:53 PM
Nov 2018

1. He got Bin Laden on Obama's watch. And as we all know Obama (in Trump's eyes) is not really an American, and can't possibly have ever done anything worthwhile. So anyone connected to Obama is less than, much less than deserving of accolades.

2. McRaven supported Hillary.

Poor little Donnie always has to take heros down as notch or two, because only Donnie is the real true hero in Donnie's drama.

Takket

(21,629 posts)
26. so let's keep score........
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:58 PM
Nov 2018

he insulted mccain
he trashed gold star families (more than once, the Kahns and family of La David Johnson)
sent troops to the border as a publicity stunt, where they still sit eating rations and will miss Thanksgiving
snubbed WWI vets in France
blew off an Arlington visit for veterans Day
insulted a man who helped take out bin Laden
Does nothing for Vets in terms of getting them medical care

am i missing anything?????????????

BUT PLEASE........ DO GO ON ABOUT HOW DEMOCRATS HATE THE TROOPS

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
35. Destroyed the GI Bill payments
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:31 PM
Nov 2018
VA unwilling to estimate when GI Bill benefit payment issues will be fixed

Gen. Worley, who will depart his current position to head the VBA's regional office in Houston, shared that 1,000 veterans had gone more than 60 days without their checks, 10,000 had been waiting between 30 and 60 days and about 73,000 total were still delayed. He could not provide the number of veterans who had gone more than 90 days.

Permanut

(5,642 posts)
49. Veteran here..
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:33 AM
Nov 2018

still waiting for an explanation of why ONE veteran, military or family should support Mango Mussolini.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
59. Female here
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 08:41 AM
Nov 2018

still waiting for an explanation of why ONE woman should support Mango Mussolini.

(And, thank you)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
28. Now both Papa and W need to speak out and Mrs. both Mrs. Bush.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:01 PM
Nov 2018

And others, time to speak out or forever hold your peace as we will be gone.

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
30. Babs is dead.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:21 PM
Nov 2018

For her many, many faults though, I do have to hand her credit for insisting before she went that her funeral not be polluted with the stench of the orange menace.

GETPLANING

(846 posts)
29. Trump is only the president of the people who still support him.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:13 PM
Nov 2018

Everyone else is the enemy in his view.
I like those odds.

xor

(1,204 posts)
34. 100% of Trump supporters support Trump.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:32 PM
Nov 2018

Therefore Trump has 100% support....in a way.


I bet we'll hear Trump say something like that at some point. Just sounds like some Trump logic.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
33. BTW Hertling, there is NOTHING wrong with being a
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:24 PM
Nov 2018

Hillary Clinton lover. Don't say it like it's a bad thing.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
36. My how small this excuse for a person who calls
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:31 PM
Nov 2018

himself the president is. What a tiny insignificant slug of a being he must be to have to say things like this in order to feel like he amounts to anything whatsoever. Why do the largest egos spring from the smallest withered souls?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
39. There's something very wrong with Trump, I tell you. With his mind.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:20 PM
Nov 2018

Some think he's so clever that he says things to elicit this or that. But I think there's just something wrong with his mind. He can create a distraction intentionally, but he can't foresee or plan for responses by others or even elicit a certain reaction to anything he says. He's incapable of it.

He's losing his little gray cells, as Hercule Poirot would call it.

jcgoldie

(11,646 posts)
42. Thats what I think
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:35 PM
Nov 2018

Watching these analysts and pundits on both side dissect every ignorant statement and tweet as if they are part of some evil genius plan... I'm thinking why don't you give a 6 year old a cellphone to play on twitter and dissect that, it will make about as much sense.

Quixote1818

(28,976 posts)
44. One of these days he is going to totally lose control in a press briefing
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:41 PM
Nov 2018

He will wack out so hard everyone will be left stunned. I think his brain is short circuiting from the stress and the pressure from the entire world seeing he is nuts and incompetent. He is someone who needs people to admire him and bow down to him. If he isn't getting that and is instead constantly being mocked for his insanity, then his brain starts to go into a tailspin. He is not cut out for politics.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
45. The putting a disguise on to vote thing was one that left mouths gaping in shock.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:46 PM
Nov 2018

That he would say that, and that he would believe that...and that he wouldn't understand that how difficult that would be, because it would take the poll workers NOT looking at their I.D.s...if even one had been asked for an ID and didn't have it, the poll workers would have noted the supposed name of the voter.

That was really bizarre...going to the car and putting on a disguise to vote again. Looney tune time.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
50. "It would be nice if we got Osama bin Laden a lot sooner."
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 03:26 AM
Nov 2018

When? Like when the selfish, criminal, inept idiots Bush and Cheney were in the WH?

ProfessorGAC

(65,191 posts)
62. I Recall Them Saying, After Couple Years. . .
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:33 AM
Nov 2018

. . .that it really didn't matter if they got OBL.

Then the Seals get him under BHO, and the moron says it should have been sooner. But, those same inept criminals said it wasn't important, but the moron thinks it so important that we took too long.

Perhaps he should take out his ire at those guys, and the country where most of the 9/11 suicide killers came from.

Mr. Bob Harris

(6 posts)
60. Trump can not be taken on face value with stuff like this.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:03 AM
Nov 2018

He is the little boy on the playground who pulls his pants down and eats worms for attention. Surely one day he will jump the shark (even for him).
Sad thing is that what he normalizes and the standards of decency he breaches will stay with us for a long time.
As Hunter S. Thompson said of Nixon, you didn't even need to know who he was to be a victim of his ugly Nazi spirit. Future generations will mostly be the same with Fat Nixon.

Nitram

(22,890 posts)
61. Mr. Retired General weakened his argument and lost the high ground when he added that
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:23 AM
Nov 2018

Raven was not a "Hillary Clinton lover." He both sank to Trump's level by engaging in that way, and insulted a different American hero.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
65. So weird to attack a traditionally Republican groups such as the military
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:46 PM
Nov 2018

And you can add in firefighters based on his comments about California fires. It is so strange it's like he's purposely trying to alienate everyone except his finite group of deplorables. Is it because somehow deep inside he knows they are the only ones who could be fooled?

niyad

(113,576 posts)
66. hye, you tangerine traitor, WHY didn't you give us the benefit of your military experitse YEARS
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:19 PM
Nov 2018

go, like. . . say. . . during the bush maladministration, to get bin laden?

your fucking jackass.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
67. Perhaps the silver lining in all that is there is less chance the military would step in
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 02:13 PM
Nov 2018

on the side of the Trump government, and obey orders to quell any uprising if he and the insane bagger wing of the GOP tried to hold onto power even if the GOP Senate felt they had no other recourse other than to impeach and attempt to remove him from office, because Mueller's charges were criminal and traitorous in nature.

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