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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 05:52 PM Nov 2018

Rep. Pelosi 'deeply inspired by young activists & advocates' demonstrating for climate change action

Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi5h5 hours ago
Deeply inspired by the young activists & advocates leading the way on confronting climate change. The climate crisis threatens the futures of communities nationwide, and I strongly support reinstating the select committee to address the crisis.


Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi 5h5 hours ago
We welcome the presence of these activists, and we strongly urge the Capitol Police to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy.




Pelosi Statement on House Democrats’ Commitment to Addressing the Climate Crisis

Washington, D.C. – Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi issued this statement on House Democrats’ plan to take action to address the climate crisis:

“We are inspired by the energy and activism of the many young activists and advocates leading the way on the climate crisis, which threatens the health, economic security and futures of all our communities.

“I have recommended to my House Democratic colleagues that we reinstate the select committee to address the climate crisis. House Democrats ran on and won on our bold campaign for a $1 trillion investment in our infrastructure that will make our communities more resilient to the climate crisis, while creating 16 million new good-paying jobs across the country.

“We welcome the presence of these activists, and we strongly urge the Capitol Police to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy.”

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Rep. Pelosi 'deeply inspired by young activists & advocates' demonstrating for climate change action (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2018 OP
I love this eleny Nov 2018 #1
me too K&R Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #17
That's my Speaker and that's my AOC. Fuck all their detractors. Autumn Nov 2018 #2
These detractors were incited by the press presenting either misleading headlines, or outright false still_one Nov 2018 #3
It wasn't just the press. You can add the darling twitter Jackass Whisper to that too. Autumn Nov 2018 #5
In some respects I am glad I don't have a twitter or facebook account, but at other times for one's still_one Nov 2018 #8
FB and Twitter, in the political sphere, are 98% cesspools Celerity Nov 2018 #12
It sounds that way still_one Nov 2018 #13
+1 Celerity Nov 2018 #10
A silly tweet that didn't match the video that no one watched and the place goes crazy. Autumn Nov 2018 #11
Happens all too often I'm afraid. Especially if you have an already predetermined bias against Nanjeanne Nov 2018 #15
That it does. I think it's just to stifle any meaningful discussion. Autumn Nov 2018 #16
So, can you explain to us why that demonstration demanding that the committee be reinstated.... George II Nov 2018 #28
The only person I have seen post about that is you, sorry I can't help you with your question. Autumn Nov 2018 #29
Obviously neither of them know or care - the organizer "protested" anyway and Ann Landers is dead. George II Nov 2018 #30
I'm sure some one is answering for Ann so it's worth a shot. Or Google might help you Autumn Nov 2018 #32
they're attacking these folks, supposedly in support of the Speaker bigtree Nov 2018 #4
Both are pure class. Nancy knows AOC has her back. To be lucky enough to Autumn Nov 2018 #7
Thank You HootieMcBoob Nov 2018 #6
The problem is, they didn't listen to what AOC said. They jumped in, ignorant because she got Autumn Nov 2018 #9
what AOC said bigtree Nov 2018 #22
Do you know who those "activists" are? George II Nov 2018 #41
Grace, wisdom and the true working of our Democratic establishment Leaders. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #14
Thank you, Nancy Pelosi bigtree Nov 2018 #20
That statement alone is proof that Pelosi knows what she's doing! George II Nov 2018 #18
Yep. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #25
kick bigtree Nov 2018 #19
K&R ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #21
What has been lost in all of this is that Pelosi already announced on November 8, five days ago.... George II Nov 2018 #23
you're far afield from how the Speaker viewed the demonstration bigtree Nov 2018 #24
No I'm not. Remember, she's wooing their support to be Speaker George II Nov 2018 #34
the young folks want their issue to gain the priority of the Speaker of the House bigtree Nov 2018 #35
How am I "at odds" with the Democratic Speaker? What I'm pointing out is that the Speaker.... George II Nov 2018 #36
she doesn't agree with you that this was an improper action bigtree Nov 2018 #37
Yes, she's a shrewd, experienced, polished Leader and politician..... George II Nov 2018 #38
as I said bigtree Nov 2018 #39
I never took that course, but are you implying that I'm "ratfucking"? George II Nov 2018 #40
no bigtree Nov 2018 #42
Well played, Speaker. THAT is why she cannot be challenged in her position. Bfd Nov 2018 #26
Nancy Pelosi is truly a class-act. This is what age and experience bring to the table! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #31
no one is actually running against Rep. Pelosi for the speakership bigtree Nov 2018 #33
Great! David__77 Nov 2018 #27

still_one

(92,217 posts)
3. These detractors were incited by the press presenting either misleading headlines, or outright false
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018

reporting, and this isn't the first time this has been done, nor will it be the last.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
5. It wasn't just the press. You can add the darling twitter Jackass Whisper to that too.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:08 PM
Nov 2018

Trashing AOC in a stupid tweet and not even listening to what she said and people fall for it every time. Every fucking time.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
8. In some respects I am glad I don't have a twitter or facebook account, but at other times for one's
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:14 PM
Nov 2018

own defense it's important to be aware of what and who is working against your cause so one doesn't get deceived


Thanks for the heads up, it didn't even occur to me, though it should have, that social media would be right in the middle of this

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
12. FB and Twitter, in the political sphere, are 98% cesspools
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:29 PM
Nov 2018

especially when the bots, dupes, shills, axe-grinders, trolls, and professional shit-stirrers, etc., start a post or tweet and then the shitstorm starts. It infantilises political debate and leads to truly false, simplistic, and all too often tribalistic takeaways. There are extraordinarily divisive and atomistic platforms.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
11. A silly tweet that didn't match the video that no one watched and the place goes crazy.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:22 PM
Nov 2018

Disgraceful.

Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
15. Happens all too often I'm afraid. Especially if you have an already predetermined bias against
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:57 PM
Nov 2018

someone.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. So, can you explain to us why that demonstration demanding that the committee be reinstated....
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:15 AM
Nov 2018

....was organized, even though Pelosi already said five days earlier (November 8) that she was reinstating the committee?

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
29. The only person I have seen post about that is you, sorry I can't help you with your question.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:28 AM
Nov 2018

You may want to contact the protest organizer or Ann Landers and ask them. Either of them might know or care.

George II

(67,782 posts)
30. Obviously neither of them know or care - the organizer "protested" anyway and Ann Landers is dead.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:33 AM
Nov 2018

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
32. I'm sure some one is answering for Ann so it's worth a shot. Or Google might help you
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:38 AM
Nov 2018
I wasn't there so no one told me anything about a committee. Maybe if you listen to the video you might find a clue to your mystery.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
4. they're attacking these folks, supposedly in support of the Speaker
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:07 PM
Nov 2018

...I lol'd when I read the posts, and immediately went to Nancy's twitter page and found what I was certain was there.

What are these folks afraid of? We need to fight for every inch, and we should ALWAYS let our own elected officials know where we stand, at every opportunity, and as loudly as we're able.

This action gained the unequivocal support of the Speaker of the House. Impressive.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
7. Both are pure class. Nancy knows AOC has her back. To be lucky enough to
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:13 PM
Nov 2018

have these two women on our side and read what is said about them by "Democrats" is sickening.

HootieMcBoob

(3,823 posts)
6. Thank You
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:09 PM
Nov 2018

They’re both doing exactly what they need to be doing. Exactly. And, each of them are well aware. I just wish the folks on DU could see that without choosing up sides and bashing one or the other. It’s only helpful if you want to emphasize a message of disunity among Democrats. All I saw happening was positive messaging by young people about something that is very important to them with the help of AOC. Congresswoman Pelosi saw exactly that too and there was progress made in a positive direction. Here’s to Congresswoman Pelosi and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for a job well done.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
9. The problem is, they didn't listen to what AOC said. They jumped in, ignorant because she got
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:17 PM
Nov 2018

"uppity" and didn't stay in the place where they wanted her to be. Speaker Pelosi clapped back. Hard. Here's to Speaker Pelosi and Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
20. Thank you, Nancy Pelosi
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:53 PM
Nov 2018
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @Ocasio2018 11h11 hours ago
Thank you, @NancyPelosi.

We have 10 years left to plan and implement a Green New Deal before cataclysmic climate disaster.

Reinstating the Select Committee is exactly what we need to do.



George II

(67,782 posts)
23. What has been lost in all of this is that Pelosi already announced on November 8, five days ago....
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:17 AM
Nov 2018

....that she was reinstating the Committee in question.

So, why the "demonstration" other than publicity?

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
24. you're far afield from how the Speaker viewed the demonstration
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:37 AM
Nov 2018

...which was in a long tradition of advocacy and appeals made by Democrats at the offices of our elected representatives.

Listen to the woman you're supposedly advocating in favor of here. You're actually contradicting the Speaker:

Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi5h5 hours ago
Deeply inspired by the young activists & advocates leading the way on confronting climate change. The climate crisis threatens the futures of communities nationwide, and I strongly support reinstating the select committee to address the crisis.

Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi 5h5 hours ago
We welcome the presence of these activists, and we strongly urge the Capitol Police to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy.

...you're contradicting the Speaker and you're essentially advocating against this group's effort to get more 'publicity' for their cause. What kind of politics is this? You're complaining about Democratic activism and advocacy directed at our own representatives?

We have a divided government and you believe that success of Democratic initiatives are is a foregone conclusion that we don't need to advocate for them anymore? Not even our own representatives?

That's some pretty tone-deaf politics. This part of our constituency, whether that makes folks uncomfortable or not. These activists, and AOC are determined to be more than (D) placeholders, and it appears that they have even more than their republican opponents to contend with, given the reflexive, uninformed, and specious criticisms of this Democratic action.

Get your facts straight. These are Democrats who, essentially, expressed solidarity with the leader of the House today on climate change. This successful demonstration should be met with the same praise that the Speaker greeted them with, not this petty, misappropriated, misguided derision.


George II

(67,782 posts)
34. No I'm not. Remember, she's wooing their support to be Speaker
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:00 AM
Nov 2018

So, if the Committee that they wanted was already being reinstated in January, what was the purpose of the demonstration?

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
35. the young folks want their issue to gain the priority of the Speaker of the House
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:07 AM
Nov 2018

...over other issues.

This isn't rocket science, it's politics 101. It's only when you try and impose your well-established bias against anything AOC does that you come up with this nonsense opposing this action by these young folks AOC showed up to give support to (after being asked by the group); this criticism of yours completely contradicting the position of the Speaker.

It's hilarious to see you at complete odds with the Democratic Speaker and posturing as if you're defending the party.

George II

(67,782 posts)
36. How am I "at odds" with the Democratic Speaker? What I'm pointing out is that the Speaker....
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:11 AM
Nov 2018

....is way ahead on issues like this and others.

Seems odd that there was a demonstration virtually demanding something that had already been decided upon and is in the works.

"This isn't rocket science, it's politics 101."

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
37. she doesn't agree with you that this was an improper action
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:18 AM
Nov 2018

....she welcomed the group petitioning her and encouraged them to keep challenging the democratic process.

You, on the other hand, come with nothing but scorn.

You and the Speaker don't agree. You are at complete odds with her over this group's advocacy. It's really petty the way you've described and questioned their advocacy, but you want to make like this is some support of Democrats or the Speaker.

She doesn't agree with you. I'd be willing to bet that she'd even view this effort of yours to criticize these advocates and activists as counterproductive and unnecessary. I do.

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. Yes, she's a shrewd, experienced, polished Leader and politician.....
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:22 AM
Nov 2018

....she graduated from "Politics 101" decades ago.

Although I've never spoken to her, the Speaker and I actually DO agree. You're reading a lot more into her statement than she probably intended.

It's like when a Representative or Senator, when speaking on the floor of his/her chamber, refers to someone on the other side as "my good friend XXXX". Really?

They covered that in Politics 102.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
39. as I said
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:25 AM
Nov 2018

...I have to wonder whose interest it's in to portray these Democrats at odds with each other.

That's covered in ratfucking 101.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
42. no
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:46 PM
Nov 2018

...that would be someone "whose interest it's in to portray these Democrats at odds with each other." That's the query.

I assume you, upon reflection, would find that as repulsive as I do.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
26. Well played, Speaker. THAT is why she cannot be challenged in her position.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:11 AM
Nov 2018

This is why she is most respected.

So is Ms Cortez going to vote for Pelosi now?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. Nancy Pelosi is truly a class-act. This is what age and experience bring to the table!
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:34 AM
Nov 2018
This is why she is most respected.
Yes indeed! Nancy Pelosi is truly a class-act. This is what age and experience bring to the table!

So is Ms Cortez going to vote for Pelosi now?
Personally, I doubt it. But it will be to her own detriment if she doesn't... and that would be a real shame.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
33. no one is actually running against Rep. Pelosi for the speakership
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:50 AM
Nov 2018

...but I suppose you can pretend there's some conflict between AOC and Rep. Pelosi if that suits your politics.

Btw, this wasn't a challenge to her position. Certainly AOC hasn't said a word in opposition. I gotta wonder who thinks they're going to benefit from portraying our Democrats at odds with each other?

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